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    joke Re: Are you willing to give up you social security to end the new deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    HELL, YEA!!!!!








    (Sorry, TOTbuster, but people need to keep reading this thread)
    I wonder what Obama will do to reduce the overbearing FICA burden on the backs of poor and middle class working individuals.

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    fyi Re: Are you willing to give up you social security to end the new deal?

    According to recent news reports, the social security debt will soon exceed 50 trillion. That's right -- 50 TRILLION. That will probably exceed the entire GNP.

    Look at it another way: That's 1000 times greater than Madoff's "crime of the century" of 50 billion.

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    Re: Are you willing to give up you social security to end the new deal?

    Everyone over 45 gets benefits after 70 years old.
    Everyone under 45 get a refund of all the money they paid in.

    All paycheck deductions end.

    We'll borrow the money from China to pay for it, that seems to be popular these days.

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    Post Re: Are you willing to give up you social security to end the new deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    HELL, YEA!!!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    I wonder what Obama will do to reduce the overbearing FICA burden on the backs of poor and middle class working individuals.
    HE HASN'T DONE A COTTONPICKING THING TO END IT YET.


    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Everyone over 45 gets benefits after 70 years old.
    Everyone under 45 get a refund of all the money they paid in.

    All paycheck deductions end.

    We'll borrow the money from China to pay for it, that seems to be popular these days.
    A great idea. It's simple and fair. However, I would eliminate a bunch of federal agencies and programs instead of deepening our debt to China.

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    Re: Are you willing to give up you social security to end the new deal?

    Even Madoff admits it's the greatest Ponzi scheme in the world.
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    Re: Are you willing to give up you social security to end the new deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    it seems to me that the best way to deal with this is to say that everyone over 45 will continue to be eligable for SS benifits, but no one else will be. everyone will continue paying taxes into it until all those 45 year olds die. something to that effect at least. I'm not sure what the demographic projections say about how that would be funded.
    No, it can be funded under general revenues. Those of us who will not benefit from it will need to have money saved into 401(k)s, IRAs, and the like.

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    Re: Are you willing to give up you social security to end the new deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot View Post
    The easiest solution is to simply raise the cap on which social security taxes are levied. Of course, the rich Bush supporters want nothing to do with that.
    Not a bad idea but it would result in a near wash since higher incomes are in a higher income tax bracket anyway. Don't expect people to work for near nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot View Post
    Someone who makes 1 million a year might have to pay $57,000 into S.S, something they could easily afford.
    I don't make anywhere near a million a year but i cannot say what that person could "afford" to pay beyond what they allready pay to the government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot View Post
    Right now, 14% of elderly women are living in poverty...take away that S.S. check and we're looking at close to 50%! This is America...we're supposed to be better than that.
    I don't believe people are thinking about not paying the retirees just those who are not retired.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot View Post
    The easiest solution...STOP RAIDING THE S.S. TRUST FUND!!!
    No problem in a few years it will take all incoming revenue from FICA taxes to pay out SS liabilities.

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