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A good measure of laziness is who you voted for.
What do you know?
I did not.What can you tell me about your choice for president? Did you even vote?
One of the most amusing lines of attack against a large portion of Americans is that they are lazy "takers" who don't want the American dream. Hilarious I know, but I love this because while many politicians embrace this ideology, they simultaneously criticize others for being divisive and waging "class warfare". To me, this is one of the biggest lies today that is unnecessarily dividing the American people when we really should be uniting with each other against the political establishment.
This idea of a significant population of Americans being lazy is purported so much that you'd think there is hard evidence for it, but is there? You can easily measure how many people are unemployed, or how many people are receiving welfare, but how do you objectively measure laziness? It's such a subjective concept but folks seem to love running to it as a way to sway voters. How can so many people claim to know this and use it as a wedge issue with such confidence?
Thoughts?
A perfect example is the guy I saw sitting on the curb with a sign that said "No work, need money, food" with a "Now Taking Applications" sign right behind him on the local Waffle House. Last time I checked, the Waffle House will hire anyone that can breath and blink at the same time. Some Americans need to take their nose out of the air and work wherever they can. I distinctly remember my father working 2 jobs. One delivering milk, the other as custodian for Servicemaster. He had no pride when it came to providing for my mom, brother, and me. Whatever put food on the table was done.
A perfect example is the guy I saw sitting on the curb with a sign that said "No work, need money, food" with a "Now Taking Applications" sign right behind him on the local Waffle House. Last time I checked, the Waffle House will hire anyone that can breath and blink at the same time. Some Americans need to take their nose out of the air and work wherever they can. I distinctly remember my father working 2 jobs. One delivering milk, the other as custodian for Servicemaster. He had no pride when it came to providing for my mom, brother, and me. Whatever put food on the table was done.
That guy was a bum. There has always been idiots like that and they live in the fringe of society.
Just as Mycroft, TheGirlNextDoor, and UtahBill have pointed out, it is something that can be seen (or more easily measured) on a personal level; but I do not think that it can be so easily defined and measured on a national scale with all of the variables that each person's situation brings to the table, so to speak (especially in a political context where it is used to appeal on a more emotional level).
Agreed.
The point I was trying to make is that the concept of calling so many Americans lazy as a political tool is really misguided and really just offensive. In my opinion, as soon as we stop yelling at each other about how careless or entitled the other is, we might actually be able to work together against the politicians who are taking us for a ride.
Well it's been a pretty common wedge in politics recently. I'm sure the abuse exists in high numbers, but it normally seems over-exaggerated.Except nobody one should take seriously ever refers to all poor people as lazy. By my measure, the rich have every right to cling to their money when the sponsors of the poor refuse to even acknowledge that significant abuses exist let alone agree to anything that would involve going after those folks.
lol good pointI am neither rich, nor poor. I used to be a democrat but their inflexibility rooted in their arrogance, among a few other things, just became too much for me.
My team members were lazy, these people you describe are sick.If you are capable of working and yet you have lived on the public teat for most of your adult life then you are lazy. Otherwise my thoughts go toward the show "Hoarders". Especially the ones on that show that not only collect crap but fail to clean as well. What really gets me is a combination of the two....don't work and don't clean up the house. That is especially over the top lazy, IMO.
My team members were lazy, these people you describe are sick.
We are looking to buy another house. A fix up short sale would be good if its in the right place. We have been seeing homes that are full of clutter, garages that are full of junk where the cars have been parked in the drive. These people had jobs, i.e. not lazy, but don't know how to live and are essentially sick.
One of the most amusing lines of attack against a large portion of Americans is that they are lazy "takers" who don't want the American dream. Hilarious I know, but I love this because while many politicians embrace this ideology, they simultaneously criticize others for being divisive and waging "class warfare". To me, this is one of the biggest lies today that is unnecessarily dividing the American people when we really should be uniting with each other against the political establishment.
This idea of a significant population of Americans being lazy is purported so much that you'd think there is hard evidence for it, but is there? You can easily measure how many people are unemployed, or how many people are receiving welfare, but how do you objectively measure laziness? It's such a subjective concept but folks seem to love running to it as a way to sway voters. How can so many people claim to know this and use it as a wedge issue with such confidence?
Thoughts?
W=FΔd it's a pretty simple equation. If you not applying force over a distance, your not doing work and are lazy.
I’ve worked with some people I’ve considered lazy. In the design process of a product one can solve a problem by applying solutions that have worked in the past. Sometimes those ‘standard’ solutions result in high cost; but, too bad that is the way it’s done. One particular case we would have to pay for the development of a custom connector adding high costs and development time for one extra signal contact. I challenged the team of 8, from two companies, several times to find a way to reduce the signals needed by one. They all told me that there was no way to do it because “This is how it’s always done.” After two weeks I came up with a simple solution. I asked if anyone else was working on a solution and “No.” was the answer. I have a patent for the solution which I didn’t share with any of the other 8 which is generally done. In my opinion the 8 others were lazy making an average salary that is in the 80k range.