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Thread: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    I think they should stick to their principles. WITH the caveat that they need to soften some of the rhetoric. It's OK to think that people on welfare aren't worth the trouble, but when you say "Well, they're victims. We don't need them..." etc., well....they're not going to vote for you.

    I don't think there's any need to reinvent their principles, but they do need to reinvent their image.


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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Well first of all socially America is behind on social issues like gay marriage and abortion. Secondly what I mean is it would move the Democrats closer to social democracy.
    Europe's abortion laws are stricter than the US's.
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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Europe's abortion laws are stricter than the US's.
    Well compared to Canada your behind we first legalized abortion in 1969 and removed all laws regarding abortion in 1988. It is still under debate in the U.S..

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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I think they should stick to their principles. WITH the caveat that they need to soften some of the rhetoric. It's OK to think that people on welfare aren't worth the trouble, but when you say "Well, they're victims. We don't need them..." etc., well....they're not going to vote for you.

    I don't think there's any need to reinvent their principles, but they do need to reinvent their image.
    Problem is, if they keep the tea party and radical religious right, they will NEVER be trusted, no matter what they say.
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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    The GOP needs to focus on the failures of the Democrat party and how their path is/would largely hurt America, they need to have a better offense.

    When it comes to immigration reform I think the Republicans need to change their policy. They should allow the children of immigrants without crime convictions to remain in the US, their parents should be fined and granted a temporary residency while they apply for full citizenship legally. We should only deport or imprison illegal aliens guilty of crimes.

    When it comes to social issues they Republicans should stand with their convictions but should give those powers over to the states instead of trying to make social issues federal issues. Not only is this best for the country but I think it would be better for the party platform as a whole.

    They need to emphasize a message of economic prosperity and allowing for more programs that get people off food stamps and welfare like funding more education for the financially disadvantaged.

    They need to strongly denounce the poor fiscal planning of previous Republican leaders and put together a feasible plan to lower the deficit and national debt. They also need to emphasize the importance of doing so.

    I also think they should reach out more so to the black community and help break the Democrat stronghold that exists within that group.
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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Europe's abortion laws are stricter than the US's.
    It may be in catholic europe. It sure the hell isn't the case in Protestant Europe. which is most of europe.
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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    The Republican party basically has no future, I think. Its fundamental principles are exclusionary. It champions Christian values at the expense of everyone else's, routinely demonizes the poor, works to disenfranchise minorities, attempts to strip women of economic and reproductive freedom, and tries to impede equality for homosexuals. When you try that hard to make enemies, of course you're going to lose elections. The demographics of this last election reveal it all. Romney got the majority of white males, and Obama got the majority of nearly everyone else. The United States is no longer a place that devotes itself to the interests of a single demographic. I don't really see a way for Republicans to adapt to this change without basically no longer being Republicans.

    There is a case for a real fiscally conservative, small government party, but that's not something that either major party espouses at the moment, so again, the Republican party would have to essentially abandon its current platforms. There's basically nowhere left for it to turn.
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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Problem is, if they keep the tea party and radical religious right, they will NEVER be trusted, no matter what they say.
    Hopefully, they will not only keep them but allow them to continue calling the shots for the Party. It's a great strategy!!
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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The Republican party basically has no future, I think. Its fundamental principles are exclusionary. It champions Christian values at the expense of everyone else's, routinely demonizes the poor, works to disenfranchise minorities, attempts to strip women of economic and reproductive freedom, and tries to impede equality for homosexuals. When you try that hard to make enemies, of course you're going to lose elections. The demographics of this last election reveal it all. Romney got the majority of white males, and Obama got the majority of nearly everyone else. The United States is no longer a place that devotes itself to the interests of a single demographic. I don't really see a way for Republicans to adapt to this change without basically no longer being Republicans.

    There is a case for a real fiscally conservative, small government party, but that's not something that either major party espouses at the moment, so again, the Republican party would have to essentially abandon its current platforms. There's basically nowhere left for it to turn.
    Which republican was it who said something about the poor clinging to their guns and Bibles? I forget his name but I am sure you would know....

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    Re: Choosing the best GOP national strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Problem is, if they keep the tea party and radical religious right, they will NEVER be trusted, no matter what they say.

    They can still be part of the party, put making them the forefront and the public face may not be the best idea.


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