View Poll Results: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

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  • I think it has legitimate rasoning but could use some reform.

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    Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Here's a few extreme scenarios I came up with. Granted this would never happen, but it's within the realm of possibility with our current system. Also I'm sure that my numbers aren't 100% percent accurate but they're close enough to give you the general idea why I'm opposed to the electoral college.

    Scenario #1
    11 states vote for the winner with a 1 vote victory in each state. Half of their voting pop. in 2012 was roughly 32 million.
    (California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas)

    39 states and the District of Columbia vote 100% for the loser. Their voting pop. in 2012 was roughly 56 million + all the people in the other 11 states that voted for the loser = 88 million.

    32 million win with 270 electoral votes
    88 million lose with 268 electoral votes

    Scenario #2
    39 states and D.C. vote for the winner with a 1 vote victory in each state. Half of their voting pop. 28 million.

    11 states vote 100% for the loser. Their voting pop. 64 million + all the people in the other 39 states and D.C. that voted for the loser = 92 million.
    (CA,FL,GA,IL,MI,NY,NC,OH,PA,TX, and Washington in exchange for New Jersey)

    28 million win with 270 electoral votes
    92 million lose with 268 electoral votes

    Scenario #3
    11 states vote 100% for the winner. voting pop.= 64 million (270 electoral votes)
    (CA,FL,GA,IL,MI,NJ,NY,NC,OH,PA,TX)

    39 states and D.C. vote 100% for the loser. voting pop.= 56 million (268 electoral votes)

    Scenario #4
    39 states and D.C. vote 100% for the winner. voting pop.= 56 million (270 electoral votes)

    11 states vote 100% for the loser. voting pop.= 64 million (268 electoral votes)
    (CA,FL,GA,IL,MI,NY,NC,OH,PA,TX,WA)
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    The system definitely needs reformed, I think instead of by state they should do it by county even.
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    Popular vote winner should get elected. Flush the Electoral College.
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    I think states should allocate by total state vote with rounding going in the favor of the winner. Since most districts should be about the same size, doing it by CD wouldn't work much different than popular vote. I am not in one of the smaller 30 states or so who would get shafted by popular vote only but I do not want any state to have no voice in the election, which is what would happen to Wyoming and places like that if it were straight popular vote.

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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    I wouldn't go so far as to go by each county having one vote. The population centers should have more say because there's more people.

    What I would support is to do it by Congressional district (which are supposed to be roughly equal in population) with the statewide winner getting the 2 remaining votes.

    Unfortunately, none of how the vote is actually split is in the Constitution. That's all by state. So we'd need 51 different laws changing it. I don't see that happening, as both parties benefit from winner take all, or at least have benefited from it. So they're likely to keep it as is.


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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    oops, misspelled reasoning
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    At most I would reconsider the winner take all model. I do not want the popular vote to determine the winner.
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I think states should allocate by total state vote with rounding going in the favor of the winner. Since most districts should be about the same size, doing it by CD wouldn't work much different than popular vote. I am not in one of the smaller 30 states or so who would get shafted by popular vote only but I do not want any state to have no voice in the election, which is what would happen to Wyoming and places like that if it were straight popular vote.
    I've never understood how individuals in smaller states believe they would get shafted if we went by popular vote.

    In a popular vote system, each vote is equal to any other vote.

    Do they believe that because they live in a smaller state, they should have more say in who becomes president than a person from a bigger state?

    I truly just don't understand why they would be upset...

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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertzz View Post

    Do they believe that because they live in a smaller state, they should have more say in who becomes president than a person from a bigger state?
    Per person? In one word: yes. It's a check, however small, against the masses and urbanites.
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    NO...... popular vote for senator of president, that is democracy and the founders hated democracy.

    go back to indirect vote of the people...not direct.

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