View Poll Results: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

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  • No, I think there are better alternatives.

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  • I think it has legitimate rasoning but could use some reform.

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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Gore would have won without electoral college. We wouldn't have been in Iraq also so sure.
    Right, and if Obama had won in 2008 he would have closed Git'Mo and got us out of Afghanistan immediately. Life would be perfect if only we could get our party into power.

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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Proportionally allocation of each state's EC. Make at least part of each state a battleground.
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Proportionally allocation of each state's EC. Make at least part of each state a battleground.
    How?

    A state is a battleground for a reason. No one arbitrarily just decided "ok, this and this and that state are battlegrounds but no others".

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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    How?

    A state is a battleground for a reason. No one arbitrarily just decided "ok, this and this and that state are battlegrounds but no others".
    What do you mean "how?" Proportional allocation changes how ECs are allocated. Rather than all 55 of California's votes goes towards a Democrat due to the winner take all, only a portion of it does. This gives Republicans incentive to actually compete in California. Same thing for Texas except it's Democrats.
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Get rid of it completely. It's outdated and unnecessary. Hopefully the national popular vote movement gets enough states to sign on to do an end run around it so it doesn't have to be changed in the constitution.
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Popular vote winner should get elected. Flush the Electoral College.
    I like that idea, but it would be very hard to pass since it would require a constitutional amendment. An alternative would be to have every state do it like the only 2 sane states (Nebraska and Maine) do it. States could dole out their electoral votes based on the percentage of their popular vote. That way the electoral college vote would more accurately reflect the popular vote.

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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Popular-vote aka mob-rule is exactly what the electoral collage was made to defend against.
    Your premise fails right out of the gate. Popular vote is NOT mob rule. It is how we elect every public official in America. MOB RULE is a right wing euphemism designed to scare the elite who feel they need extraordinary protection against the wishes of the American people. The word MOB is suppose to conjure up images of roaming bands of cretins armed with pitchforks and torches, perhaps today guns and other weaponry, rampaging through our streets in wild rioting doing their worst to the innocent. It is a dishonest term intentually used to commit intellectual fraud of the worst sort.


    There is no MOB who elects state governors. There is no MOB which elects state senators or representatives. There is no MOB which elects members of Congress. There is no MOB which elects mayors and councils and school boards. All these people go through a peaceful, organized and systematic election process and the winner of the peoples vote gets the office to represent the people.

    Yes, many of the sainted Founders were indeed part of the elite of that time two and one-quarter centuries ago. They wanted to protect what they had and saw the Electoral College as a final bulwark against the will of the people should it come to that. That reality is NOT something to trumpet or be proud of. It is a sad historical reality that we should be ashamed of just like the found a way to continue the practice of slavery or treat females as little better than something above farm animals.

    The Electoral College may be the last vestige of protecting privilege and power for the American elites and we should admit that and crush and flush it ASAP.
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    The system definitely needs reformed, I think instead of by state they should do it by county even.
    If we do it by county, the number of delegates would need to increase as we have well over 538 counties in the country. Plus if you still want to have any notion of fairness you would need to do something similar to the EC and try to proportion # of votes by population within the counties. I could easily imagine the delegation count being over 5,000.

    Not a huge deal, but unnecessarily complicated and still prone to many of the problems that the EC has.

    Personally, I would love to go to a proportional system. People are going to vote for parties anyway, at least the vast majority, so just accept that and go with it. If you do proportional systems, the various subgroups in each party don't have to keep their uneasy marriage and we can go with smaller and more narrowly focused parties that actually better represent people's interests.

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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    I believe the President should have to carry the popular vote in at least twenty-six (26) states in order to become commander-in-chief. I do not like that a President could win only the 11 most populated ones and be leader of the other 39.
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    Re: Do you like the electoral college voting system?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    We must keep the electoral college.

    If we switched to the popular vote, states like Montana and Wyoming would be completely ignored during the presidential election.
    How many times did Romney and Obama visit these two states or even talk about their local state issues? They were considered safe states and pretty much ignored anyway.

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