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Thread: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Pretty much everywhere in the US has some natural disaster issue. Whether it be tornados, hurricanes or earthquakes. Granted, building on a fault line is dumb idea, but it's pretty much impossible to get a 100% natural disaster free zone.

    That said, we should build either thorium reactors or pebble bed reactors. It will take more space, but they will be far safer, not only in operation but in the waste problem.
    Yeah. As long as the risk to the public is statistically low I'm good with it. I saw something on the pebble bed reactors a few years back, was impressed not as familiar with thorium but if it works let's do it.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Depends on the variables. How stable is the environment around the reactor, i.e. will an earthquake, hurricane, wildfire or other natural disaster in the immediate area be enough of a threat to destabalize it and cause a meltdown. As well I would want to make sure the newest techs are employed and it's as safe as possible. If it's not a threat to the public and waste is disposed of properly absolutely.
    You know, that's a really good point. It seems like every two years we either have a catastrophic hurricane, or one of the ****ing plants around here blows up (Looking at you BP). So on top of the actual hazards it presents, and the utter lack of responsibility when it comes to industrial waste disposal, we'd have that too.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    You know, that's a really good point. It seems like every two years we either have a catastrophic hurricane, or one of the ****ing plants around here blows up (Looking at you BP). So on top of the actual hazards it presents, and the utter lack of responsibility when it comes to industrial waste disposal, we'd have that too.
    There's a reactor around the Baton Rouge area of Louisiana, it's in a sparsely populated area and from what I understand it can withstand a Cat 4, possibly a 5. I think the structures can survive and protect the reactor but the concern becomes manpower, does the plant hold it's own if the roads are impassible or manpower is scattered and if so, how long will it remain stable, things like that are just as important as structural integrity.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yeah. As long as the risk to the public is statistically low I'm good with it. I saw something on the pebble bed reactors a few years back, was impressed not as familiar with thorium but if it works let's do it.
    In theory, a PBR cannot meltdown due to design and total potential heat generated. And some thorium designs are self regulating so that heat generated cannot exceed a certain level before automatic system shutdown. Apparently a large number of nuclear engineers are sketch on the thorium designs because it's such a radical departure from the constant supervision and massive safety engineering that goes into current systems. But a system designed to shut off once heat reaches a set point is pretty cool.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    In theory, a PBR cannot meltdown due to design and total potential heat generated. And some thorium designs are self regulating so that heat generated cannot exceed a certain level before automatic system shutdown. Apparently a large number of nuclear engineers are sketch on the thorium designs because it's such a radical departure from the constant supervision and massive safety engineering that goes into current systems. But a system designed to shut off once heat reaches a set point is pretty cool.
    Definitely worth a look, I am kind of wary of low supervision systems because even the best safeguards can fail, but it sounds promising.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    There's a reactor around the Baton Rouge area of Louisiana, it's in a sparsely populated area and from what I understand it can withstand a Cat 4, possibly a 5. I think the structures can survive and protect the reactor but the concern becomes manpower, does the plant hold it's own if the roads are impassible or manpower is scattered and if so, how long will it remain stable, things like that are just as important as structural integrity.
    Whether it can remain stable or not, it's not right for this town. We already got ****ed by industrial power. The water is toxic, you can't eat anything you pull out of it, you can't swim in it, the land is ****, it's the middle of November and it's too hot to wear a damned jacket, there's an increase in birth defects, increase in cancer, and some days we're greeted by a putrid sick looking sky with equally disgusting smells. They don't follow environmental practices with the **** we already have, and there's no reason to believe they're going to magically start following environmental guidelines if we replace all the old **** with nuclear power.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Whether it can remain stable or not, it's not right for this town. We already got ****ed by industrial power. The water is toxic, you can't eat anything you pull out of it, you can't swim in it, the land is ****, it's the middle of November and it's too hot to wear a damned jacket, there's an increase in birth defects, increase in cancer, and some days we're greeted by a putrid sick looking sky with equally disgusting smells. They don't follow environmental practices with the **** we already have, and there's no reason to believe they're going to magically start following environmental guidelines if we replace all the old **** with nuclear power.
    WOW, not good. That's one concern I have, that of an unethical company literally not caring if they poison the area around the plant. I always tell people I'm not an environmentalist in the truest sense as they stand today, BUT, I do care about not causing provable and immediate harm with industrial waste, chemicals, or unsafe and negligent practices.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    WOW, not good. That's one concern I have, that of an unethical company literally not caring if they poison the area around the plant. I always tell people I'm not an environmentalist in the truest sense as they stand today, BUT, I do care about not causing provable and immediate harm with industrial waste, chemicals, or unsafe and negligent practices.
    Well, that's what happens when stuff like that is privatized by a too big to fail company like Exxon.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Well, that's what happens when stuff like that is privatized by a too big to fail company like Exxon.
    I'm not anti-regulation, however I am a "necessary and proper" proponent before something is issued. Things like Benzine, chlorine, other industrial solvents, and pollutants are more than fair game to control.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I'm not anti-regulation, however I am a "necessary and proper" proponent before something is issued. Things like Benzine, chlorine, other industrial solvents, and pollutants are more than fair game to control.
    All I'm saying is come on over and see for yourself. I guess you would also smell it for yourself, too. Stay here long enough and you'll feel like **** every day as well due to the bad air.
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