View Poll Results: Are You Interested In More Nuclear Power?

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Thread: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Until we solve the energy storage problem of solar and wind, Nuclear Fission is about the cleanest game in town.
    In the US we need to standardize the plant type and plant permitting, so every plant is the same type, and can be built quicker.
    I knew some people who worked on the South Texas Project, they joked about the paperwork weighing as much as the containment domes.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Until we solve the energy storage problem of solar and wind, Nuclear Fission is about the cleanest game in town.
    In the US we need to standardize the plant type and plant permitting, so every plant is the same type, and can be built quicker.
    I knew some people who worked on the South Texas Project, they joked about the paperwork weighing as much as the containment domes.

    That storage problem is an opinion. Locally, a half dozen or dozen batteries solve the problem. On a commercial scale, the storage is a big problem. So why are deployment incentives NOT aimed at LOCAL solar and wind instead of behemoth wind and solar. If you start in the wrong spot, you will end in the wrong spot. No entity can presume the right to create a hazard that extends the hazard beyond their lifetime. That would be Nuclear waste.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    That storage problem is an opinion. Locally, a half dozen or dozen batteries solve the problem. On a commercial scale, the storage is a big problem. So why are deployment incentives NOT aimed at LOCAL solar and wind instead of behemoth wind and solar. If you start in the wrong spot, you will end in the wrong spot. No entity can presume the right to create a hazard that extends the hazard beyond their lifetime. That would be Nuclear waste.
    The storage of energy is a big problem when we consider how most people live.
    A real energy solution would be distributed, to share the extra power generated, we need some way to store that energy
    so the it can be used at a later time.
    Currently, excess power from grid tied systems, must have a load, or is lost. (mostly heat dissipation)
    Batteries are getting better, but still have a ways to go before they could support the power grid.

    As to the Nuclear Waste, it can be recycled, we choose not to.
    Most of our problem with Nuclear waste, is what we define as Nuclear waste, actual high level radioactive waste
    is quite small in volume.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    I don't want to support the power grid. I want to support LOCAL. I think INDUSTRY needs the grid far more than families. I want energy support at LOCAL levels to build local jobs, local maintenance, local savings, to generate spending savings locally, to build local infrastructure as a National program that produces jobs and pays for itself and INDUSTRY should be approached as needing subsidization of its power requirements and acknowledge the "welfare" nature of its continuing existence. I'm saying we subsidize industry in this country to the detriment of the living, breathing Citizens, as opposed to the Citizens United Supreme Court definition of citizens.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    I'm fine with using nuclear power, but I think we should start mining coal and make more coal power plants. The fact that we have the largest coal reserves in the world would definitely help our economy. In my opinion, coal to us would be like oil is for the Middle East. It's a gold mine that we're not digging up.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I don't want to support the power grid. I want to support LOCAL. I think INDUSTRY needs the grid far more than families. I want energy support at LOCAL levels to build local jobs, local maintenance, local savings, to generate spending savings locally, to build local infrastructure as a National program that produces jobs and pays for itself and INDUSTRY should be approached as needing subsidization of its power requirements and acknowledge the "welfare" nature of its continuing existence. I'm saying we subsidize industry in this country to the detriment of the living, breathing Citizens, as opposed to the Citizens United Supreme Court definition of citizens.
    I can go along with that idea. I still think even the local group needs some sort of energy storage for odd events, no wind, several weeks of cloudy weather, ect.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    My only issue with nuke plants is the disposal of waste and used plant parts. Outside of disposal, I think nuke plants are ecologically sustainable and even beneficial on rare occasions (see: Turkey Point and crocs).

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathstar 80 View Post
    I'm fine with using nuclear power, but I think we should start mining coal and make more coal power plants. The fact that we have the largest coal reserves in the world would definitely help our economy. In my opinion, coal to us would be like oil is for the Middle East. It's a gold mine that we're not digging up.
    Coal is filthy, "clean" coal (oxymoron) is less filthy, "very clean" coal costs as much to build as a nuke plant....
    and coal has billions of tons of waste products stored right out in the open....along with the waste products that are floating around in the air....
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    We humans cracked the atom sometime in the early 1940's; built the first nuclear power plant anywhere on the planet in 1954 in the USSR. The US currently has 104 nuclear power plants.

    Nuclear Energy Institute - U.S. Nuclear Power Plants

    I can't believe I'm asking this, but I am. I'd rather have another one in my county than to have fraking for natural gas going on, or coal mining, or that benighted Keystone Pipeline.

    What say you? Could we achieve energy independence via building more nuclear power plants, and if so, would you be willing to do so?
    I do not think that energy independence is absolutely necessary....this could be Japans horrific mistake..
    What we must have is trade balance (in our favor,of course).
    Another thing we must have is honesty/openness....I do not think people trust the big companies and the government.
    And for good reason (particularly big business).....
    These things we must work on, then make a choice of nuclear or natural gas..(which, IMO, looks to be good)..

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I don't want to support the power grid. I want to support LOCAL. I think INDUSTRY needs the grid far more than families. I want energy support at LOCAL levels to build local jobs, local maintenance, local savings, to generate spending savings locally, to build local infrastructure as a National program that produces jobs and pays for itself and INDUSTRY should be approached as needing subsidization of its power requirements and acknowledge the "welfare" nature of its continuing existence. I'm saying we subsidize industry in this country to the detriment of the living, breathing Citizens, as opposed to the Citizens United Supreme Court definition of citizens.
    What do you mean by, "LOCAL?" If you're just talking about solar cells on individual rooftops, that's fine and even a good idea. But such setups cannot support their power needs at night unless they overbuild (more cost) and add in storage (even more cost). A large solar plant can afford storage and is thereby better able to support the community. Individuals with solar can reduce demand from the grid, but you would still need a large central plant that is primary power. And even that large solar plant should have nuclear or NG as a backbone for when the primary solar plant is getting enough power.
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