View Poll Results: Are You Interested In More Nuclear Power?

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Thread: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    No justification for nukes. They have to be done with gov't money. They are not insurable, and that is because the potential liability is huge. We don't need the energy. There is plenty of wind and sun. So why build nukes anyway? Read carefully. They plug in to the existing centralized distribution of electricity network and tax collection network. Guess what. Wind and solar are only truly efficient when placed locally. Who gets cut out of the loop? That would be the centralized distribution of electricity network (monopoly) and the tax collection network (state and federal gov'ts). Who'd a thunk it that the Utilities and gov't are partners in the business. That's why nukes. That's why TMI, Chernobyl, Fukushima, 9 nuclear subs, and who knows how many unreported events? Not needed at any price. Not safe at any price. Always on a major freshwater source. That's a huge threat. What do bankrupt nuke corporations do with big waste problems. Look at Fukushima and TEPCO has been Nationalized and that is another way of saying that the taxpayer will now be responsible for the nuke waste at Fukushima. This is standard business practice or modus operandi as some might say. How old is your nuclear reactor?

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    The Direct Costs of Energy: Why Solar Will Continue To Lag Hydro And Nukes - Forbes

    read it and weep, if we went totally solar we would have to pay double the rate, which would be fine because you will only get it half the time.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    We humans cracked the atom sometime in the early 1940's; built the first nuclear power plant anywhere on the planet in 1954 in the USSR. The US currently has 104 nuclear power plants.

    Nuclear Energy Institute - U.S. Nuclear Power Plants

    I can't believe I'm asking this, but I am. I'd rather have another one in my county than to have fraking for natural gas going on, or coal mining, or that benighted Keystone Pipeline.

    What say you? Could we achieve energy independence via building more nuclear power plants, and if so, would you be willing to do so?
    The Big Potential of Micro Nukes | Alternative Energy | DISCOVER Magazine

    Unfortunately, the terrorist threat keeps us from any real energy solution. Micro nukes can be converted into bombs. Simply withdrawing our demand for oil will further destabilize the ME. We have to advance to a higher level of social evolution before the problem of energy can be solved. We have the knowledge and tech to move to energy independence, but he wave the wisdom not to do it at the stage of evolution. Myth and legend are filled with great empires who fell by their own hands because they reached for power before they were ready.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I support the Keystone pipeline, getting more natural gas and drilling more of our oil as well as more nuclear power. I think we should go for the most cost effective method that results in energy independence (or at least has us getting more energy from Canada and virtually none from the Middle East).
    You know the oil from that pipeline isn't even intended for us? The plan is to use the refineries in the gulf and then export the resultant gasoline. But yeah, energy independence is really important. For me, I'd prefer no oil from the middle-east as soon as possible. Ultimately, no oil from Canada and Mexico either. They aren't so unstable so eliminating the need for their oil isn't as much of a rush job. When all the oil we need is produced right here in the US, we'll be in very good shape.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    You know the oil from that pipeline isn't even intended for us? The plan is to use the refineries in the gulf and then export the resultant gasoline. But yeah, energy independence is really important. For me, I'd prefer no oil from the middle-east as soon as possible. Ultimately, no oil from Canada and Mexico either. They aren't so unstable so eliminating the need for their oil isn't as much of a rush job. When all the oil we need is produced right here in the US, we'll be in very good shape.

    I really don't mind the Canadians and Mexicans sending oil here to refine. After all gasoline, Vaseline, kerosine, etc are worth more than some crude.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I really don't mind the Canadians and Mexicans sending oil here to refine. After all gasoline, Vaseline, kerosine, etc are worth more than some crude.
    Especially the Vaseline, eh?

    I don't mind it either, actually. That pipeline isn't going to be any saving grace for US citizens, although a lot of people seems to think so. It won't change our domestic gas prices in the slightest. It will increase our exports of a critical commodity which will be helpful and ultimately beneficial, but not beneficial in regards to US gas prices.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Especially the Vaseline, eh?

    I don't mind it either, actually. That pipeline isn't going to be any saving grace for US citizens, although a lot of people seems to think so. It won't change our domestic gas prices in the slightest. It will increase our exports of a critical commodity which will be helpful and ultimately beneficial, but not beneficial in regards to US gas prices.
    I know that. The Alaska pipeline came with the same hoopla. For people in the oil gig it will be beneficial. Sweet Texas crude is an awful lot easier to refine than tar sands out of Canada.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I know that. The Alaska pipeline came with the same hoopla. For people in the oil gig it will be beneficial. Sweet Texas crude is an awful lot easier to refine than tar sands out of Canada.
    Yeah, it is hard to refine, but there's a lot of it. So it makes sense to make what money you can while you can. Canada makes money of the oil, we make money off the gas. It works out.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Yeah, it is hard to refine, but there's a lot of it. So it makes sense to make what money you can while you can. Canada makes money of the oil, we make money off the gas. It works out.
    Thank goodness my Grandfather made some investments in West Texas. The stuff bubbles up blonde in color.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    We humans cracked the atom sometime in the early 1940's; built the first nuclear power plant anywhere on the planet in 1954 in the USSR. The US currently has 104 nuclear power plants.

    Nuclear Energy Institute - U.S. Nuclear Power Plants

    I can't believe I'm asking this, but I am. I'd rather have another one in my county than to have fraking for natural gas going on, or coal mining, or that benighted Keystone Pipeline.

    What say you? Could we achieve energy independence via building more nuclear power plants, and if so, would you be willing to do so?
    We already have one less than 30 miles from where I live.

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