View Poll Results: Are You Interested In More Nuclear Power?

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Thread: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    We humans cracked the atom sometime in the early 1940's; built the first nuclear power plant anywhere on the planet in 1954 in the USSR. The US currently has 104 nuclear power plants.

    Nuclear Energy Institute - U.S. Nuclear Power Plants

    I can't believe I'm asking this, but I am. I'd rather have another one in my county than to have fraking for natural gas going on, or coal mining, or that benighted Keystone Pipeline.

    What say you? Could we achieve energy independence via building more nuclear power plants, and if so, would you be willing to do so?
    When we think of energy independence, most think of middle east oil as our only import, but we get natural gas and oil from Canada and Mexico.
    Almost all of our imported natural gas is from Canada. We also get uranium from Canada.
    And, we get a lot of electricity from Canada, our grids are interconnected.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    we haven't managed hot fusion yet, and it exists in nature, in the sun...
    where does cold fusion exist?
    It exists in Wikipedia.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    DHW can be done far better on site with a solar water heater system.
    Yeah, but you can't supply a skyscraper with a solar heater, you need something more powerful.

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    IOW, build green to start with, so that you need less gas and electricity.
    That's good but we can't just throw our existing infrastructure away, that wouldn't be so green.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    I grew up in the shadow of a nuclear plant. My father worked security at the plant for a number of years when I was young. I now work in the electric utility industry, though on the Distribution side, not Generation or Transmission. I have absolutely no problem with nuclear energy.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    I'm all for nuke energy, use it for the next 50 years as renewable energy tech progresses, then when it's at the stage it out does nuclear, switch to it.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    They are building another nuke plant within 20 miles of where I sit, along with the existing three-within-100-miles I already have.


    I'm fine with that. Bring it on.
    Get hold of a KiCKs study conducted by Germany

    The incidence of cancer in children living near nuclear power plants is higher than the normal levels

    Nuclear power plants routinely release tritium, zenon and krypton etc into the environment

    The French also conducted similar studies and found the same effects

    In Fukushima post meltdown about 57,000 children were tested and about 42% had abnormal Thyroid glands (the normal Thyroid abnormality rate in children is less than 1%(

    Fukushima still melting down and releasing radionuclide

    Nuclear power and its waste is the most insane human activity in history

    And lets not mention nuclear weapons which is the main reason nuclear power plants are built (ie to get Plutonium which is a by product of nuclear fissioning of Uranium)

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I'm all for nuke energy, use it for the next 50 years as renewable energy tech progresses, then when it's at the stage it out does nuclear, switch to it.
    What are you talign about?

    Nuclear power is the most expensive, dangerous and dirtiest method of producing electricity

    As of 2010, solar THERMAL power is cheaper than nuclear, and is a base load 24/7 method of eletricity production (they store heat in molten salts which is then released at night to keep the turbines running)

    And about all, there is no safe method to dispose and store the nuclear waste.

    Germany is currently 20% renewable and expects to be 50% renewable by 2020. They are abandoning their nuclear power plants.

    US reactors are old - and exposed to all sorts of threats

    Fukushima and Chernobyl are grave site reminders - pay attention

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    What are you talign about?

    Nuclear power is the most expensive, dangerous and dirtiest method of producing electricity
    The largest nuclear power plant in the world cost 7.8 billion dollars to build, and has an output of 7,200 MW, the largest wind farm cost 17.5 billion, and has an output of 5,100 MW, the largest solar plant cost 280 million, and produces 214 MW. Hundreds of thousands of people have died in coal mining accidents, and coal mining, and the burning of coal produced far more pollutants than uranium mining.
    Fukushima and Chernobyl are grave site reminders - pay attention
    One was 70's Soviet technology, with the accident caused by under-trained communists, the other was a 30 year old plant hit by one of the largest recorded earthquakes and a huge tsunami.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    The largest nuclear power plant in the world cost 7.8 billion dollars to build, and has an output of 7,200 MW, the largest wind farm cost 17.5 billion, and has an output of 5,100 MW, the largest solar plant cost 280 million, and produces 214 MW. Hundreds of thousands of people have died in coal mining accidents, and coal mining, and the burning of coal produced far more pollutants than uranium mining.


    One was 70's Soviet technology, with the accident caused by under-trained communists, the other was a 30 year old plant hit by one of the largest recorded earthquakes and a huge tsunami.
    You can't insure nuclear power plants for public liability do you understand why?

    If you carry out a full life cycle analysis of uranium ore to waste disposal, nuclear energy is extremely carbon polluting

    Have you worked why the private sector has not built a single nuclear power plant anywhere in the world.

    Fukushima Daichi in Japan is expected to incur a cost of half a trillion dollars to clean up in the next 40 years

    Not that the costs will end at that time. Waste disposal responsibility is expected to be in the time scale of hundreds of thousands of years. Wonder what the costs will mount to by then?

    TEPCO was the largest energy corporation in Asia and among the top few in the world but is now national send by the Japan government and technically insolvent and bankrupt.

    Looks like your costs to build and run a nuclear power are a little conservative don't you think?

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    When I think of a Nuke plant, I immediately fear it will be a terrorist target, especially if it is near a city.

    I personally would not want to live near a Nuke plant, only for that reason; I believe our safety measures are more than satisfactory presently.

    I do not believe we should be spending the time or energy building Nuclear plants. I would rather continue on the path we are on now, using natural resources (I live in Frack-country, I'm a nature lover and I fully understand the costs to this suggestion, but the risk/reward ratio deems it the best option IMO) until technology let's us take advantage of renewable energy - we're well on our way there, I believe. It should be within a decade that the technology is here, then it's a matter of implementation.

    I do not want to increase our risk for a short-term solution that will be outdated before my kids go to college.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    You can't insure nuclear power plants for public liability do you understand why?

    If you carry out a full life cycle analysis of uranium ore to waste disposal, nuclear energy is extremely carbon polluting

    Have you worked why the private sector has not built a single nuclear power plant anywhere in the world.

    Fukushima Daichi in Japan is expected to incur a cost of half a trillion dollars to clean up in the next 40 years

    Not that the costs will end at that time. Waste disposal responsibility is expected to be in the time scale of hundreds of thousands of years. Wonder what the costs will mount to by then?

    TEPCO was the largest energy corporation in Asia and among the top few in the world but is now national send by the Japan government and technically insolvent and bankrupt.

    Looks like your costs to build and run a nuclear power are a little conservative don't you think?
    Because people start to panic at the mere mention of nuclear without even thoroughly understanding the facts. People look at the Fukushima disaster which involved extraordinary circumstances that NOBODY ever imagined possible, and worry as though such things would happen every day. One hundred thousand or more die as a result of coal plant use every year, and yet people look at nuclear power where maybe 20 have died in it's entire history (I'm going off the top of my head and not checking this). If people insist on panicking about something, panic about coal. Coal has a proven and verifiable record as killer and environmental destroyer, yet insurance for it isn't so hard at all. So insurance companies look at what people panic over in regards to their rates, not hard realities. They are not an accurate measure of what's safe and what is not.
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