View Poll Results: Are You Interested In More Nuclear Power?

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Thread: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    in the USA?
    I doubt it....
    Florida is in the USA

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    There are other environmental factors people never mention.

    Nukes need HUGE amounts of FRESH water. Massive amounts. There is a row of HUGE wells just for the one Nuke that sucks off massive amounts of ground water. This is bleeding off water from the aquafer, which then affects water for cities - that then use ground water. The amount of water being pulled - despite how wet this area is - is that the salinity of fresh water is increasingly becoming brackish - radically harming the estuaries.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There are other environmental factors people never mention.

    Nukes need HUGE amounts of FRESH water. Massive amounts. There is a row of HUGE wells just for the one Nuke that sucks off massive amounts of ground water. This is bleeding off water from the aquafer, which then affects water for cities - that then use ground water. The amount of water being pulled - despite how wet this area is - is that the salinity of fresh water is increasingly becoming brackish - radically harming the estuaries.
    A big river is enough to cool the plant. Or, plants can be build close to big cities, so they can utilize that energy instead of wasting it. Then they can provide hot water for a whole city, annually. I don't say central heating because it only last for half of the time. Domestic hot water is used at all times.

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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Florida is in the USA
    Your per KW rate? compared to other states? and what plant in particular is broken.....?
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    I stand for cold fusion. Otherwise, no.
    we haven't managed hot fusion yet, and it exists in nature, in the sun...
    where does cold fusion exist?
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There are other environmental factors people never mention.

    Nukes need HUGE amounts of FRESH water. Massive amounts. There is a row of HUGE wells just for the one Nuke that sucks off massive amounts of ground water. This is bleeding off water from the aquafer, which then affects water for cities - that then use ground water. The amount of water being pulled - despite how wet this area is - is that the salinity of fresh water is increasingly becoming brackish - radically harming the estuaries.
    Almost all nukes are built near rivers, oceans, big lakes....the one that does not uses very little well water, it gets its cooling water from the cities in and around Phoenix, in the form of partially treated sewer effluent. It is piped to the plant (3 units) where it is further treated to make it cleaner and viable for use in cooling towers. The treatment plant is situated near the nuke plant, but downwind if winds are in the normal direction. When the wind shifts, you know immediately...
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Basically "incentives as encouragement". There could be some effort to change new building regulations to include energy efficiency, but most should be encouraged, not regulated.
    Google Architecture 2030 and Better Buildings Initiative, these plans have all kinds of incentives that are NOT from government, the best one is to give preferred interest rates based on how green you build. Edward Mazria is the man behind this, he wrote the best book I have found on the topic of passive solar design and construction. My retirement home has a lot of glass on the south side, the sunlight comes in and warms a lot of tile and granite in the kitchen/dining area. I like to stand in the window on a sunny winter day and feel the warmth while I watch my working neighbors shovel snow.

    There was a time that air pollution was due mostly to tailpipe emission, but congress mandated cleaner engines and the auto industry stepped up and in less than a decade we had the computer controlled fuel injected engines that now are putting out more power/torque and better fuel efficiency, and of course, a mere fraction of the air pollution. One thing, tho, that should be an embarrassment to the auto makers, is that MOST of the initial fuel efficiency gains were gained by OLD TECH, the overdrive transmission.
    Now, thanks to most of our electricity coming from coal, it is our buildings that are the biggest source of air pollution.

    I am in favor of more nukes. If I was in better health, I could get a nice high paying job as a contractor during construction phase, as an Instrument Tech and Metrology Tech. But the Parkinson's has vetoed that. If you saw my unedited typing, you would know what I mean.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    A big river is enough to cool the plant. Or, plants can be build close to big cities, so they can utilize that energy instead of wasting it. Then they can provide hot water for a whole city, annually. I don't say central heating because it only last for half of the time. Domestic hot water is used at all times.
    DHW can be done far better on site with a solar water heater system. But there are some commercial/industrial uses of that wasted heat, in Europe IIRC. Domestic home heating needs could be further reduced by using passive solar building techniques. IOW, build green to start with, so that you need less gas and electricity.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There are other environmental factors people never mention.

    Nukes need HUGE amounts of FRESH water. Massive amounts. There is a row of HUGE wells just for the one Nuke that sucks off massive amounts of ground water. This is bleeding off water from the aquafer, which then affects water for cities - that then use ground water. The amount of water being pulled - despite how wet this area is - is that the salinity of fresh water is increasingly becoming brackish - radically harming the estuaries.
    Coal plants have the same issue, the massive amounts of water needed is for the cooling towers, so any plant that uses steam turbines will need cooling water. Even combined cycle gas turbines have cooling towers.
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    Re: Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Florida is in the USA
    FLorida is about 37 out of 50 states for high rates, above average but not in the top 10...
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