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  • Change, real change, would happen.

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  • Pretty much the same thing as always.

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  • Gridlock even worse than we have seen thus far.

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    What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President?

    What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President?

    1. Change, real change, would happen. They would be beholden to nobody.
    2. Pretty much the same thing as always. They'd still have to compromise.
    3. Gridlock even worse than we have seen thus far. They'd have no friends and both parties would team up to thwart them.
    4. Something else.


    The question presumes they would not have independent or members of their party on Congress of any size on which to rely.
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    Re: What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President

    they'd still be somewhat beholden to the interests that put up the money. winning is a very expensive process, and in the current duopoly, i don't know if grassroots efforts can cut it.

    assuming it's a legitimate candidate and not a bat**** crazy extremist, however, i'd love to see it happen someday.

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    Re: What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President

    It would mean a fundamental change in politics for America. The problem an independent president would have would be Congress. We have to assume that Congress will still be controlled by the Big 2. Now an independent president can issue executive orders and start the ball rolling on his policies.

    I fear that the president would be blocked so much by Congress that little would be accomplished, but the very presence of an independent in the White House would mean immediate change in the public view of politics.
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    Re: What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President

    All liberal tax/spending bills will be vetoed, and social agendas will be approved (but not funded).
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    Re: What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    All liberal tax/spending bills will be vetoed, and social agendas will be approved (but not funded).
    Depends on which independent party that president is a part of.
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    Re: What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President

    The problem with this post is that it assumes that a 3rd party candidate that could be elected. However, I think the biggest problem is: Finding a 3rd party candidate most people can stomach.

    Ron Paul: bat**** insane.
    Gary Johnson et al: Who?

    Face it people, the reason we have a 2 party 'system' today is because the other guys are either completely bat**** crazy or irrelevant in politics. People vote for Rs and Ds cause they have AT THE VERY LEAST sort of ideological track record that most people can IDENTIFY with even if they disagree with. The 3 Libertarians and 5 druggies on the internet vote for their guy because they think that their ideology is what Evangelicals, Liberals, white & black people, etc will benefit most from.

    However, as we all know, the time when their idols (The Founders, Rah-rah-rah) ruled wasn't really all that great for anybody other than rich Protestant white guys. I don't much care for a free market, their version of legalized drugs, anti-globalism and blatant xenophobia.

    Who else do we have on the internet? The socialists? Well I don't much care for government controlled means of production, concepts of anomie or even their belief of equal wealth ownership.

    I do however care for a candidate that addresses: the environment, poverty in America, corporate oppression of native people, reproductive rights, eminent domain, etc. Even if I disagree with it.

    What's are the 3rd party stances on those issues?

    Irrelevant or already held by one of the two main parties. Why would I vote for them then? Because they're the little guy?
    The collective stances of 3rd parties in the US can basically be boiled down to: Don't do it, rants about the free market or at most: it's not the government's job.

    I don't care for such vague generalities.
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    Re: What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problem with this post is that it assumes that a 3rd party candidate that could be elected. However, I think the biggest problem is: Finding a 3rd party candidate most people can stomach.

    Ron Paul: bat**** insane.
    Gary Johnson et al: Who?

    Face it people, the reason we have a 2 party 'system' today is because the other guys are either completely bat**** crazy or irrelevant in politics. People vote for Rs and Ds cause they have AT THE VERY LEAST sort of ideological track record that most people can IDENTIFY with even if they disagree with. The 3 Libertarians and 5 druggies on the internet vote for their guy because they think that their ideology is what Evangelicals, Liberals, white & black people, etc will benefit most from.

    However, as we all know, the time when their idols (The Founders, Rah-rah-rah) ruled wasn't really all that great for anybody other than rich Protestant white guys. I don't much care for a free market, their version of legalized drugs, anti-globalism and blatant xenophobia.

    Who else do we have on the internet? The socialists? Well I don't much care for government controlled means of production, concepts of anomie or even their belief of equal wealth ownership.

    I do however care for a candidate that addresses: the environment, poverty in America, corporate oppression of native people, reproductive rights, eminent domain, etc. Even if I disagree with it.

    What's are the 3rd party stances on those issues?

    Irrelevant or already held by one of the two main parties. Why would I vote for them then? Because they're the little guy?
    The collective stances of 3rd parties in the US can basically be boiled down to: Don't do it, rants about the free market or at most: it's not the government's job.

    I don't care for such vague generalities.
    Wow...what a horrible view. I completely disagree with you. The two party system is corrupt and ran by corporate special interest groups, but that is okay with you.

    3rd Parties give different options to those issues you mentioned. Pretty simple when it comes to Libertarians...keep government out. There is no xenophobia so much as no entangling alliances. We're all for diplomacy and trade with nations...just against being forced by a group of nations to do something. Globalization is not good.

    You need to learn and research a bit more because their issues are in black and white. It is more than generalizations. Its up to you as a responsible voter to understand them. To sit there and say the two party system is the best is naive and wrong.
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    Re: What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President

    It couldn't happen. Too many people are dependent on their political ideology and identification with their large group banner, to look objectively at a non-mainstream party.
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    Re: What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President

    It would depend on who they were and what thier platform/agenda was. Hard to say but maybe just more of the same.
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    Re: What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President

    As long as she/he is for legalized abortion, high taxes, liberal spending habits, gay rights, and racial equality (non-white benefit programs), I imagine 51% of the country would be thrilled to have such a president. Oh, and it wouldn't hurt for the new president to be female and to have a darker skin tone, as well.
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