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  • Upper middle

    30 32.97%
  • Lower middle

    26 28.57%
  • Working class

    16 17.58%
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Thread: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    The picture does seem to bunch people up in a strange way but this info goes mostly by us government stats. When I looked at the stats that went with this I was very surprised with just how well off I am compared to most Americans. Of course nowadays my biggest problems are affording a 2013 model car and buying a house and not having enough gas for my car and food.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Yeah, there really should be-- there's people who can afford to pay a tenth of their income, and people who can afford to live off a tenth of their income.

    I'm just saying... if your parents can afford to put three children through college on their own, they're wealthy.
    Actually he's raised a good point - is "wealthy" "income" or "disposable income"? Is it "total net worth" or "liquid net worth"? Is someone making $200K in the beltway the same as someone making $200K in Arkansas?

    For example, my base pay is $32K a year. But the military forced me to move to a high-cost-of-living area where rent is about $33K a year, utilities are costly, and food costs an arm and a leg (my monthly commissary bill is around $800). So, the military gives me a COLA adjustment and covers my rent through the Overseas Housing Allowance. So the pay that goes through my checking account is more like $80K a year. I have a graduate degree, but the vast majority of my peers do not even have an associates. Heck if I know which one of these I fit in.

    All of these breakdowns suck.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    The picture does seem to bunch people up in a strange way but this info goes mostly by us government stats. When I looked at the stats that went with this I was very surprised with just how well off I am compared to most Americans. Of course nowadays my biggest problems are affording a 2013 model car and buying a house and not having enough gas for my car and food.
    take it for what it's worth - but I would recommend buying against a new car unless you are otherwise debt free and can pay for it in cash. Even then, buying brand new is like taking 25K and investing it in a stock that you know is going to lose 2/3rds of it's value over the next three years. Unless you can afford that kind of loss.....

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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    I've been at almost all those class levels at one point or the other in my life, except maybe wealthy. My idea of wealthy is cash/assets combined in the $1-2+ million range. I'm low middle to working class now.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I've been at almost all those class levels at one point or the other in my life, except maybe wealthy. My idea of wealthy is cash/assets combined in the $1-2+ million range. I'm low middle to working class now.
    Most Americans don't realize, that on the global scale, they're part of the top 5%.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Is someone making $200K in the beltway the same as someone making $200K in Arkansas?
    Yep, this is a very important point to keep in mind when comparing incomes.

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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    The picture does seem to bunch people up in a strange way but this info goes mostly by us government stats. When I looked at the stats that went with this I was very surprised with just how well off I am compared to most Americans. Of course nowadays my biggest problems are affording a 2013 model car and buying a house and not having enough gas for my car and food.
    Buying a 2013 is fun, but isn't exactly wise.
    Go to carmax, get a 2012 fleet/rental for a fraction of the price of 2013.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Most Americans don't realize, that on the global scale, they're part of the top 5%.
    I know it's really very comparative. When I was a child I'd say my parents were relatively poor and we were working class. We didn't have nothing by today's standards but we didn't know it. And they grew up so poor in comparison to what I did it was like another world. Father had no running water, lights (coal oil lamps) or even shoes half the time. They had no modern medicine or health coverage, etc. But they told me they didn't know either because everyone around them was as poor. And beyond radio, magazines, papers and books there wasn't this huge amount of information streaming in about the world.

    We're a bunch of spoiled brats in comparison to that generation and the ones preceding it but we need experiences to relate.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I know it's really very comparative. When I was a child I'd say my parents were relatively poor and we were working class. We didn't have nothing by today's standards but we didn't know it. And they grew up so poor in comparison to what I did it was like another world. Father had no running water, lights (coal oil lamps) or even shoes half the time. They had no modern medicine or health coverage, etc. But they told me they didn't know either because everyone around them was as poor. And beyond radio, magazines, papers and books there wasn't this huge amount of information streaming in about the world.

    We're a bunch of spoiled brats in comparison to that generation and the ones preceding it but we need experiences to relate.
    No doubt I agree.
    I'd say, compared to the majority of the people existing today, in the world, we're spoiled brats.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    First, refer to this image:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...5/Class_US.svg

    I am democrat, voted for Obama, I fall under lower middle class smack dab in the middle of it making my situation better than roughly 54% of Americans.
    The chart is pointless.

    Cost of living is different based on where you live, so someone in SC may make 60k and be doing quite well. 60k in California? Not so much.
    I qualify as upper middle class, and have no degree whatsoever.

    People seriously need to stop with this idiotic notion that Education ALWAYS equates to increased Income.
    It's one of the main reasons education is so damned expensive.

    Guess which education scenario would be cheaper?
    Average of 5 people in a given area pursuing higher education, 3 local colleges.
    Average of 500 people in a given area pursuing higher education, 3 local colleges.

    When demand outpaces supply, costs go up. This is econ 101, from the high school I dropped out of.
    Last edited by Kr1ll1n; 11-18-12 at 04:24 AM.

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