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  • Capitalist class/wealthy

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  • Upper middle

    30 32.97%
  • Lower middle

    26 28.57%
  • Working class

    16 17.58%
  • Lower class

    9 9.89%
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Gross income - lower middle class
    Net income - working class

    Ron Paul is about the only politician I've seen that shares the same views as me. That being said, I didn't vote for anyone this year.

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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    The poll asks you for your social class, but the poll options refer to economic class.

    I guess I belong to several social classes, reflected by the DP Social Groups I'm a member of. It never occurred to me to think of income in terms of who I hang out with. That's an alien concept to me.

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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    I could not see the image, but my family would fall under working class. I am not of age to vote, sadly, but I am legally unaffiliated and my entire family voted for Obama. If I were forced to choose a party, which I would dread, I would register as a libretarian. Luckily, that is not the case. If I had the vote in this past election, then I most likely would have written in Ron Paul for president and focused more on both the state and national legislatures.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    It's extremely hard to escape without help. Silver spooners get help from their families.
    Yup, and typically for that reason they don't do as well. The vast majority of American millionaires are first-generation (like, around 80% of them) wealthy, and never got an inheritance.

    I agree that it is difficult to escape poverty, but it is always difficult to improve ones' station in life - whether you are moving from the lowest income bracket to the middle or from the middle to a higher one. There is a club for that called "life" and we meet at the bar.

    Unfortunately, hand outs appear to make it harder for people to climb out of poverty, as they become dependent upon the aid, stunt their natural drive towards self-improvement, and begin to seek ways to enrich themselves not through increasing production, but rather through increasing the amount that they take from others. They get caught in self-destructive generational cycles of broken families, joblessness, and functional illiteracy. Our attempts to "help" through government have thus far exacerbated these trends, not reduced them.

    If we actually want to help the poor, perhaps we should start taking a look at what works rather than what is easy.

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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The poll asks you for your social class, but the poll options refer to economic class.

    I guess I belong to several social classes, reflected by the DP Social Groups I'm a member of. It never occurred to me to think of income in terms of who I hang out with. That's an alien concept to me.
    Ditto. My friends (in RL) include millionaires, broke students, well-paid S&T workers, single parents, and everything in between. Liking or disliking people because of their income is amazingly stupid.

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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yup, and typically for that reason they don't do as well. The vast majority of American millionaires are first-generation (like, around 80% of them) wealthy, and never got an inheritance.

    I agree that it is difficult to escape poverty, but it is always difficult to improve ones' station in life - whether you are moving from the lowest income bracket to the middle or from the middle to a higher one. There is a club for that called "life" and we meet at the bar.

    Unfortunately, hand outs appear to make it harder for people to climb out of poverty, as they become dependent upon the aid, stunt their natural drive towards self-improvement, and begin to seek ways to enrich themselves not through increasing production, but rather through increasing the amount that they take from others. They get caught in self-destructive generational cycles of broken families, joblessness, and functional illiteracy. Our attempts to "help" through government have thus far exacerbated these trends, not reduced them.

    If we actually want to help the poor, perhaps we should start taking a look at what works rather than what is easy.
    Tens of millions of the working population are unemployed. There are at most four million jobs available in the nation.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Tens of millions of the working population are unemployed. There are at most four million jobs available in the nation.
    Ah. And that, of course, is a static figure non-subject to change. Fortunately, we don't live in a static economy, but rather one populated by humans; wherein production begats production.


    However, that is neither here nor there. In good times and in bad our poorest sections of the populace are less likely to seek or hold regular employment; for the simple enough reason that they are less motivated to do so.

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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    First, refer to this image:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...5/Class_US.svg

    I am democrat, voted for Obama, I fall under lower middle class smack dab in the middle of it making my situation better than roughly 54% of Americans.
    I got to thinking about this question for a little bit before I answered. I belong to my own social class ie Sovereign American. To be honest I dont think in terms of class. I consider that to be an archaic european conceit. I consider EVERY American to be in the same class I am. Hence there is no class. The only real difference between a homeless American, me, and Bill Gates is the amount of money in our bank accounts. Thats it. It aint that much of a difference, when you sit down and actually think about it. Because with a turn of fate I could be in Bill Gates place, Bill Gates could end up in the homeless mans place, and the homeless man in my place. American economic strata is VERY fluid when compaired to the rest of the world. Millionaires are routinely added and dropped. One bad year for a millionare and they have to start over. In fact if you survey most of the millionaires and billionares you will find more than a few have lost all their money before and have been millionaires at least twice. Blue collor, white collor, proffesional. What does that really mean in this country? Not a a lot. It applies much more abroad than here. I am a prime example. I am not a college graduate. I work in the logistics and transportation fields. That you would think make me blue collor. The catch is I own a business and have clients that are on the New York Stock exchange and the fortune 500. I gross at least high 6 figures. I am not an exception in this country. Big Business in this country survives by utilizing the services of small business. People like me. Americans I think are much more difficult to pigeon hole. So what does that make me? My own class, the same class as Every other American, no class.
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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I got help from my family when my dad worked third shift at a mill at night and farmed during the day. His mom scrubbed floors on or hands and knees at a hotel to make extra money which she used to buy land--little lots at a time. Inheriting a work ethic helps too. In fact, some might say that is more important, but whatever, 4th and 5th generation welfare families won't mean anything to those who do not care that there are 3rd generation ones now.
    That leads to the question, How did they become 3d generation welfare families? Yo blame welfare for it, saying it made them lazy. What you are saying is the the solution caused the problem in the first place.

    I say that racial discrimination from African slavery to the current day caused the problem.

    No doubt it has gotten a lot better now.

    It's a lot tougher to get welfare now than it used to be.

    I will admit that there are crurently too many people on welfare who are lazy and don't deserve it and are lying in order to get welfare.

    This is where we should concentrate the reform.

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    Re: What class do you fall under and what is your political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Top Tip o'the Day, Mr LA! And when buying second-hand, always buy German or Japanese. Those Axis boys know how to make cars that last.
    Chevys last pretty well too if you take care of them. I've also got a Dodge Caravan that's holding up pretty well - almost 200k.

    Bad news is repairs on those can be a killer. In the past 2 weeks I've had to put new tires on the Blazer, and a new muffler and coil for the van (which also needs new tierods. That's put us back $1200. That's true of any used car.


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