View Poll Results: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    entirely moronic religiously.
    What does his religion have to do with his politics? He's as good as anyone at keeping the two separate.
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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    What does his religion have to do with his politics? He's as good as anyone at keeping the two separate.
    Conservatives don't like Ron Paul because they think Conservatism=Imperialism. It has nothing to do with his religion.
    This may be different for Geoist, but I sincerely doubt it.

    Paul was not a fan of the current Imperialistic method of Republican Foreign Policy, and they view him as weak because of it.

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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kr1ll1n View Post
    Conservatives don't like Ron Paul because they think Conservatism=Imperialism.
    Unfortunately, that is the case. I don't agree with Paul on everything (how to reform tax system namely) but if one has disagreements over his ideology at least be honest and thoughtful about it.

    Seriously, a conservative raging over a Republican's religion (a Republican who likes to keep his faith private too). That is just ridiculous.
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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    I watched Ron Paul's farewell speech and it was very well delivered. He is one of the last true statesman in Congress, but has paved a way to a Liberty movement in this country. He has brought the ideas of fiscal responsibility, small government, and civil liberties to the people and it has been well received. Dr. Paul could not be bought. He did not support any special interest group, and was true to his principles for his entire stay in Congress.

    People call him crazy, but when one actually looks into what he is saying...they find out that it makes a hell of a lot more sense then a lot of the BS going on now.
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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    What does his religion have to do with his politics? He's as good as anyone at keeping the two separate.
    Anyone who rejects the strongest science (evolution) if favor of the most absurdly ridiculous religion (creationism) has no business in public office.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Anyone who rejects the strongest science (evolution) if favor of the most absurdly ridiculous religion (creationism) has no business in public office.
    1. Creationism is not a religion.

    2. That leaves about 80% of your fellow Republicans out.

    3. How does his view on creationism affect public policy?
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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    Further proof of neoconservative failure, and why the GOP keep shooting themselves in the foot by disenfranchising Libertarian minded Republicans;






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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    His legacy lives on through Rand and honestly I watched Obamas. There are things the Paul's stand for I'm 100% against and others 100% for. I hope the Republicans continue to slowly steal their good ideas so the party becomes sane again. My granddaddy ran for state senate in SC a few times against other Republicans that for sure would beat him, but he would promise to do great things that they would turn around and promise as well. It worked and Lexington County and others in SC were better for it.
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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    1. Creationism is not a religion.
    Not in and of itself, it is a part of a particular sectarian belief, which Paul does hold, which demonstrates an anti-science, anti-reality view of the world around us. It's one thing that politicians play to the religious right to get votes, it's another that they not only swill the Koolade but Paul dumps it down his throat by the gallon.

    2. That leaves about 80% of your fellow Republicans out.
    Whatever makes you think I excuse anyone who does it?

    3. How does his view on creationism affect public policy?
    It certainly affects how he sees education, church-state separation, etc. How can you not see that?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Did you watch Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's Conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by jacobchillerman View Post
    The other day Ron Paul gave his farewell speech to congress

    In another attempt to shut out Ron Paul's message, President Obama decided to hold his conference(I honestly dont care wtf it was) at the EXACT. SAME. TIME.

    So which one did you watch? Ron Paul's Farewell Address or Obama's conference....or neither?
    Neither. I care about actual policy, not theatrics. You guys also need to cut the "OMFG conspiracy!" crap. It's tiresome and way overplayed.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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