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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    Secession is the talk of treason, of being the enemy. In fact our enemies want nothing less than a balkanized America. So I have to question the motive of the people talking of secession as if it were something good. There has been a line drawn and if you cross over that line you are no longer an American, instead you are a traitor and a target. Lock and load bring it on try it please.

    Only an idiot would seriously think that civil war is a good idea, and secession is the first step. But then this is all for laughs since the population of any state that you pick would not vote for secession. SO quit masturbating people its disgusting to watch you guys act like fools in public. But then keep it going the far right needs to flame out so that we can move on as a country.

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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Succession could be possibly acceptable to me...but the situations where it would be acceptable are ridiculously small and unlikely to occur. If a President managed to find a way to maintain control longer than his two terms, significantly accelerated the stripping away of states rights and of personal rights, and created a situation where the vast majority of a state felt that they could not justifiably identify with the United States anymore...I could at least accept it as understandable.

    It would lead to nothing good, and it likely wouldn't be successful, but it would be understandable at that point imho
    But the states would join together to oust the dictatorship, not break apart into separate divisions.

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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    But the states would join together to oust the dictatorship, not break apart into separate divisions.
    Eh, not necessarily. Dictatorships usually don't have a giant sign hanging over their leaders head at the start going "DICTATOR". Sometimes they're able to actually gather enough will of the people in concentrated pockets to make it seem fully reasonable or by the board.

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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Secession is the talk of treason, of being the enemy. In fact our enemies want nothing less than a balkanized America. So I have to question the motive of the people talking of secession as if it were something good. There has been a line drawn and if you cross over that line you are no longer an American, instead you are a traitor and a target. Lock and load bring it on try it please.
    Leaving the union is not being a traitor and anyone that supports the premise of Texas v. White has no idea what they are talking about. If you wish to shoot people acting peacefully then you have no one to blame but yourself for you own lack of moral character.

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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Since many believe there is no right to secession, does that mean you would not support secession regardless of what the federal government did?
    If our federal government reinstated slavery, or was taken over by fascists or nazis (this could happen - check our congress , loaded with tea baggers)
    secession is still not the way to go!

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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    I think that if Corporate control of USA politics becomes too pervasive, then secession is a viable alternative. We can't be starting resource wars. We can't give corporations influence in our military. We can't initiate tariffs to protect Corporations. We can't allocate extra rights to Corporations. It's a country about people first. We, the people.

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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Since many believe there is no right to secession, does that mean you would not support secession regardless of what the federal government did?
    Actually, I'd have a lot more trouble with the state and local entities behaving themselves, as history points out..
    Maybe our good ole USA should throw Texas under the bus....not serious, of course...

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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Eh, not necessarily. Dictatorships usually don't have a giant sign hanging over their leaders head at the start going "DICTATOR". Sometimes they're able to actually gather enough will of the people in concentrated pockets to make it seem fully reasonable or by the board.
    Everyone knows what it means by a president serving beyond the Constitutional limits. And sure there will be pockets of idiots that fancy their own revolutions. Those people are no better than the dictatorship that the rest of us would be fighting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Leaving the union is not being a traitor and anyone that supports the premise of Texas v. White has no idea what they are talking about. If you wish to shoot people acting peacefully then you have no one to blame but yourself for you own lack of moral character.
    Individually you can do whatever you please and leave the union, but as a State that is not happening. And those individuals and factions that try to force a secession are traitors.


    And dont try silliness with me I didnt fall your attempt to marginalize me so that I join your silly ass attempt to justify secession. There will be no such thing as a peaceful secession. The Civil war sealed that deal a long time ago.

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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Intricate View Post
    I think the principle of succession is good, it keeps an extra check on the federal government and allows states a way to defend themselves against corruption. At this point the federal government has consistently violated so many civil liberties as to render itself illegitimate. It may be to the point that only a mass movement of the states can reduce and reform the corrupted federal government.

    Right now, in my opinion, we need to promote and defend states rights and the principles of federalism against the rising trend of authoritarianism in government.
    Please list one "civil liberty" that has been UNDULY violated by our government....without good reason...

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    Re: Would you oppose secession for ANY reason?

    There is no possibly acceptable to it, it is completely acceptable! It is a constitutional right of the state. I say let 'em secede!

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