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Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?


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Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act? I say that it is. It's the use of violence to try to get your way politically.
 
Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act? I say that it is. It's the use of violence to try to get your way politically.
Of course it is. I understand their anger, of course, but they have zero right to blow anything up. They should be treated like any other terrorist under the law.
 
Yes it is. Bombings of any kind is terror.... in war or not. That is why they bomb to create terror on the receiving end!
 
Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act? I say that it is. It's the use of violence to try to get your way politically.

How does setting off a bomb get their way politically?
 
How does setting off a bomb get their way politically?

It doesn't 'get their way' politically - they're 'trying to get their way' or they 'think it will get them what they want'

It's in their head that it's 'effective' - it's just criminal acts guised as a 'cause'
 
How does setting off a bomb get their way politically?
It's an attempt to scare people and make a message against abortion.... pretty straight forward.

Of course it is a terrorist act... I guess you can say,"two wrongs don't make a right", in this case.
 
I said yes, the action is dedicated to inspiring terror in those who who use these clinics.
 
Its also showing thier understanding of Christian doctrine. In reverse.
 
Bomb? Terror? Go hand in hand...of course its an act of terror
 
Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act? I say that it is. It's the use of violence to try to get your way politically.

Terrorism is the act of coercion through violence, not necessarily getting ones way. Plenty of terrorists don't get their way, but they'll make the rivers run red with the blood of their perceived enemies if allowed to continue their actions. That's why armed predator drones exist.
 
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Yes.


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Yes and no.
"Classic" or true terrorism attacks all of us - simply for existing
Terrorism against an abortion clinic is only set against the abortionist and his victims.
 
Yes and no.
"Classic" or true terrorism attacks all of us - simply for existing
Terrorism against an abortion clinic is only set against the abortionist and his victims.

You dont think that the attacks do not affect women who were thinking of having an abortion? Or that the community surrounding where the attack was? I know if I walk near a clinic where they do abortions I keep an eye out for packages and crazy people. Bombing clinics affects everyone not just the workers and the owners of the clinic.
 
Is there some significance to it being deemed a "terrorsit act", say a longer prison sentence, as opposed to your usual, everyday bombing?
 
Is there some significance to it being deemed a "terrorsit act", say a longer prison sentence, as opposed to your usual, everyday bombing?

Bombings in this country are an everyday occurance?
 
Bombings in this country are an everyday occurance?

Don't be banal. My question was to the motivation of the OP to have abortion clinic bombings considered a "terrorist act". Is there some advantage to this?
 
Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act? I say that it is. It's the use of violence to try to get your way politically.

Of course its a crime..is it terrorism...I dont know how to characterize that and it may very well be if the intent is to discourage others from doing what they have a lawful right to do...if its just to kill someone in particular than its a crime...does that make sense ?
 
Is there some significance to it being deemed a "terrorsit act", say a longer prison sentence, as opposed to your usual, everyday bombing?

Yes, actually.

Due to a raft of atrociously bad laws passed during the Clinton and Bush II administrations, merely being ACCUSED of certain criminal acts (including some forms of terrorism) dramatically changes which legal rights -- if any -- you retain.

I don't recall if domestic terrorism falls within that range of specified crimes, but for those select crimes, you don't have habeas corpus rights or in some cases even a right to a timely trial (i.e. you can be thrown in a dungeon without access to family members or counsel...indefinitely).
 
Don't be banal. My question was to the motivation of the OP to have abortion clinic bombings considered a "terrorist act". Is there some advantage to this?
It paints people like Eric Rudolph as terrorists instead of being treated like a hero like he was by quite a few anti-abortion supporters when he was on the lam.
I think that's an advantage.

If you get tm ask the motivation of the OP,then I get to ask you what are your motivations?
 
It paints people like Eric Rudolph as terrorists instead of being treated like a hero like he was by quite a few anti-abortion supporters when he was on the lam.
I think that's an advantage.

If you get tm ask the motivation of the OP,then I get to ask you what are your motivations?

What advantage is that? Do you think the people who applauded Rudolph are going to think differently about him because he's labeled a terrorist in the MSM?
 
Yes, actually.

Due to a raft of atrociously bad laws passed during the Clinton and Bush II administrations, merely being ACCUSED of certain criminal acts (including some forms of terrorism) dramatically changes which legal rights -- if any -- you retain.

I don't recall if domestic terrorism falls within that range of specified crimes, but for those select crimes, you don't have habeas corpus rights or in some cases even a right to a timely trial (i.e. you can be thrown in a dungeon without access to family members or counsel...indefinitely).


So if the local wiseguy torched a Dry Cleaners because they won't pay protection money and WG wants to send a message to other business owners, that's a crime, but if you're anti abortion and torch an abortion clinic that's a double secret probation crime crime worthy of Guantanamo?
 
So if the local wiseguy torched a Dry Cleaners because they won't pay protection money and WG wants to send a message to other business owners, that's a crime, but if you're anti abortion and torch an abortion clinic that's a double secret probation crime crime worthy of Guantanamo?

They're both obviously crimes, and either or both could be the basis of terrorism charges, but depending on what the offenders are charged with...one could get a trial, while the other may not.

The scary part is that the difference is not based upon what one or the other is CONVICTED of, mind you, just what they are CHARGED with.
 
It paints people like Eric Rudolph as terrorists instead of being treated like a hero like he was by quite a few anti-abortion supporters when he was on the lam.
I think that's an advantage.

If you get tm ask the motivation of the OP,then I get to ask you what are your motivations?

As for my motivation I just want to understand the motivation and reasoning of the OP. I see these kind of threads/opinions about making the punishments of certain crimes enhanced compared to similar crimes with similar outcomes based only on the thought process of the perp.

A crime is a crime, who cares what FU thoughts were in the mind of the creepy perp. By establishing different punishments for similar crimes and similar outcomes you are setting up two classes of victims...the fortunate and the unfortunate.

All animal-victims are equal, but some are more equal than others. Is that really where you want to go?
 
What advantage is that? Do you think the people who applauded Rudolph are going to think differently about him because he's labeled a terrorist in the MSM?

Hopefully it'll give some of them second thoughts about bombing abortion clinics if it means they are going to end up at Gitmo with the other terrorists.
Or the death penalty.
Christians don't get a free pass on committing terrorist acts just because they worship Jesus.
I'm going on record on saying that all terrorists should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
In my opinion bombings are terrorist attacks.

What are your opinions on this?
 
Don't be banal.
That's Verthaine for ya. He doesn't read books, he hates answering questions, and he has prerogative that only Bobby Brown can appreciate. ;)
 
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