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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    So if a prolifer bombed a clinic at midnight when there was no one there it wouldn't be terrorism?
    I see it as the overworked "War on __________________" when it isn't war at all. Or putting "______gate" after every possible issue of misconduct in government.

    A word gets lached onto and then worked to death until it comes to have no meaning anymore. Yet people act as if the word then has some power of its own right.

    This poll is really just arguing over the definition of a word, nothing else. BUT the idea is if the word "terrorist" is attached to someone, then per se that is an extra evil person by virtue of the word. Villification. The American way.

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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    As I wrote if of it, it is not to achieve a political goal.
    Stopping abortions IS a political goal. It doesn't matter how you write about it; that remains unchanged.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It is to achieve a tangible goal of stopping abortions. To you it is JUST political.
    I never said or wrote that it is JUST political, nor does it need to be JUST political. I don't know where in the world you're getting this imagined premise that it must be exclusively one or the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    But to some other people I suspect it is murder and has nothing to do with politics.
    Check this out: in this whacky, powerful, multifaceted universe, it is possible for an action or object to have -- this is the amazing part -- more than one quality, or be more than one thing at the same time.

    For example: there's nothing precluding the act of bombing an abortion clinic from being BOTH a political act AND murder, i.e.:

    Someone wants to stop someone else from doing something.
    Will killing them stop them from doing things? In most cases, YES.

    Voilá! Political and murderous at the same time.
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    I answered your question,now answer mine .
    What is your definition of terrorism
    Up until this thread I never thought about it much. It's been used so often and so cavalierly that any specific definition or meaning has probably been lost in the common vernacular.

    I checked several dictionaries and this one probably comes closest.

    terrorist act

    noun
    the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.

    So I guess any crime that isn't for personal gain, a crime of passion or just plain hatred can be considered terrorism.

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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act? I say that it is. It's the use of violence to try to get your way politically.
    No, because only white people bomb these places, and these people are usually "christians". christians can not be terrorists.

    /sarcasm

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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by cmakaioz View Post
    Stopping abortions IS a political goal. It doesn't matter how you write about it; that remains unchanged.



    I never said or wrote that it is JUST political, nor does it need to be JUST political. I don't know where in the world you're getting this imagined premise that it must be exclusively one or the other.



    Check this out: in this whacky, powerful, multifaceted universe, it is possible for an action or object to have -- this is the amazing part -- more than one quality, or be more than one thing at the same time.

    For example: there's nothing precluding the act of bombing an abortion clinic from being BOTH a political act AND murder, i.e.:

    Someone wants to stop someone else from doing something.
    Will killing them stop them from doing things? In most cases, YES.

    Voilá! Political and murderous at the same time.
    ^ A very politically correct answer.

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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act? I say that it is. It's the use of violence to try to get your way politically.
    It's domestic terrorism, but terrorism nonetheless. Without question. People who do this are enemies of the entire nation.
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    ^ A very politically correct answer.
    WTF are you babbling about now? Acknowledging the obvious point that things can have more than one characteristic is "politically correct" to you?

    Let's see:

    "joko104" is a member name of a DP poster.

    "joko104" contains seven characters.

    WOW! More than one characteristic...how very PC of me.

    WTF are you talking about? Do you have any intention of actually supporting your nonsense, or are you just looking to spout white noise?
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Frankly, an abortion clinic is a "terrorist" entity to a fetus. Bombing a clinic is also a terrorist incidence. I am anti abortion, but not being female, I feel their vote on the subject is the bottom line. Abortion should not be used as birth control and I'm afraid that is what goes on in these United States.

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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by cmakaioz View Post
    WTF are you babbling about now? Acknowledging the obvious point that things can have more than one characteristic is "politically correct" to you?

    Let's see:

    "joko104" is a member name of a DP poster.

    "joko104" contains seven characters.

    WOW! More than one characteristic...how very PC of me.

    WTF are you talking about? Do you have any intention of actually supporting your nonsense, or are you just looking to spout white noise?
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Frankly, an abortion clinic is a "terrorist" entity to a fetus. Bombing a clinic is also a terrorist incidence. I am anti abortion, but not being female, I feel their vote on the subject is the bottom line. Abortion should not be used as birth control and I'm afraid that is what goes on in these United States.
    by what definition? not saying there isn't one that supports you but id like a link to which one does? then if you can provide one i have a simply follow up question.
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