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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    How do you know what I do or don't do?
    Isn't it obvious? You're a devout follower of Jeremiah Wright, an admirer (if not member) of the Black Panther organization, and a parroter of Bobby Brown lyrics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Are you still sore because I whooped your behind in our last debate?
    Cry me a river,will ya.
    What debate? Your comments had zero substance. How can we have a debate when you don't participate? Sure, you've got attitude, but that doesn't help you very much in intellectual circles. You're just too flakey, Verthaine, and I'm sorry you had to hear that from me.
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    You speak the truth, FreedomFromAll, IMO.
    And one can say that both are acts of terrorism.
    IMO, both are crimes, first and foremost....
    This is the reason for the yes and no "vote".
    Those who bomb clinics "think", if one can call it that, of the victims as being collateral. A terrorist similarity (anti-abortion and Islamic) is that they have no respect for others and little for themselves.
    Last edited by earthworm; 11-13-12 at 03:15 PM.

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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    You speak the truth, IMO.
    And one can say that both are acts of terrorism.
    IMO, both are crimes, first and foremost....
    This is the reason for the yes and no "vote".
    Those who bomb clinics "think", if one can call it that, of the victims as being collateral. A terrorist similarity (anti-abortion and Islamic) is that they have no respect for others and little for themselves.
    Agreed. Senseless violence, unfortunately, makes its way across the entire board.

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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Isn't it obvious? You're a devout follower of Jeremiah Wright, an admirer (if not member) of the Black Panther organization,
    I'd ask you to prove it,but every one knows you can't.Stop hijacking this thread for your petty vendetta's.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    and a parroter of Bobby Brown lyrics.
    I don't know who Bobby Brown is.I tend to listen to Miles Davis and Thelonious Monk.


    But nice failed attempt at painting me a portrait.
    Stop hijacking this thread for your petty vendetta's.

    Like I said before,if you wish to continue this,there is PM,or do you need an audience?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    What debate? Your comments had zero substance.
    That's your opinion.Isn't it great that we live in a country where were can state our opinions?
    Now stop hijacking this thread for your petty vendetta's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    How can we have a debate when you don't participate?
    How can we have a debate if I don't automatically agree with everything you say?
    Is this what this is really about?
    Are you mad that I don't automatically agree with everything you say?
    Stop hijacking this thread for your petty vendetta's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Sure, you've got attitude, but that doesn't help you very much in intellectual circles. You're a flake, Verthaine, and I'm sorry you had to hear that from me.
    That is your opinion.
    Isn't it great we live in a country were we can state our opinions.

    Yet here you are,hijacking a thread for a petty vendetta and you call me a flake?
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act? I say that it is. It's the use of violence to try to get your way politically.
    I don't know about a terrorist attack but its definitely breaking the law and anyone caught doing it should be punished to the full extent of the law.
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    I'd ask you to prove it,but every one knows you can't.Stop hijacking this thread for your petty vendetta's.
    It's 'Vendettas' not 'Vendetta's'.... for future reference.

    No hijacking here, my friend. I was just agreeing with the other poster about your 'banal' comments. You're the one who charged in with both fists swinging.

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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    domestic terrorism.
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Absolutely it is.
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    I say no.

    I would think the objection of someone bombing an abortion clinic is to destroy the abortion clinic itself and stop what happens there.

    "Act of terror" would seem foremost focused on creating general terror more than a specific target for the ends of destroying that target.

    Because an act causes fear does not constitute an act of terror. All violence causes fear.

    Noting I am particularly pro-choice, still there are real ethical-judgment issues that do arise. If someone TRULY believed innocent "babies" were being murdered in mass numbers at a facility, wouldn't there be an ethical duty to stop it? Would it have been "immoral" for someone to have blown up a train used to transport Jews to Nazi death camps?

    I would think if someone blew up an abortion clinic it certainly is illegal, but if done in a manner deliberately to try to avoid hurting someone I would think it would not fall into the "terrorism" category, but rather an act by someone zealous about their real belief that abortion is murdering a baby.
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    Re: Is bombing a family planning clinic in opposition to abortion a terrorist act?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I say no.

    I would think the objection of someone bombing an abortion clinic is to destroy the abortion clinic itself and stop what happens there.
    (bolding mine)
    That's clearly a political goal.
    Violence, or credible threat of violence: check
    in order to achieve a political goal: check

    Terrorism.
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