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If Obama is impeached

If obama is impeached should romney be seated as president

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Misterveritis said:
It was lying under oath, actually.
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I know. I was just messing around making fun of him being the most powerful person in the country and still only being able to get fat ugly chicks. There is a certain amount of failure in that which is completely shameful.
 
Kal'Stang said:
You do know that we're talking hypotheticals right?
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If we're talking hypotheticals, maybe they should just inaugurate Gary Johnson because of the widespread political gaming by Democrats and Republicans.

I'd be good with that.
 
rocket88 said:
If we're talking hypotheticals, maybe they should just inaugurate Gary Johnson because of the widespread political gaming by Democrats and Republicans.

I'd be good with that.
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Did Gary Johnson recieve more votes than Romney? If not then sorry, outta luck on that one.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Actually I don't think that he would be in the case put forth by the OP. Because in this case Biden only got the vice-presidency due to fraud caused by Obama. As such if there was fraud, that would mean that Obama never actually got elected. And as such it would have been Romney that was elected. See Biden wouldn't be President for the simple fact that the votes never supported Obama and by default him.

What you would be doing is putting Biden in position against the Peoples wishes.

Also technically there would be no impeachment. Because in order to be impeached you have to be a valid President. Gaining that position through fraud would mean that you were not technically voted in by the People...which is the only way to become President.
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What utter nonsense. There is no fraud. So before you go building up a case for installing your loser Mittens as a bastard President of the USA, you may want to actually go out and find this fraud you mention and then document that it determined them margin in the election for Obama.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Did Gary Johnson recieve more votes than Romney? If not then sorry, outta luck on that one.
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Johnson has just as much legal right to be President as Mittens: and that would be ZERO. So they both have equal status.
 
haymarket said:
Johnson has just as much legal right to be President as Mittens: and that would be ZERO. So they both have equal status.
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If Romney recieved more legitmate votes then Johnson then no, they would not have equal status. Unless you just want to redo the whole election again? They'd have to do it before Janurary 20th though...Think they can actually do it in about 2 months?
 
Kal'Stang said:
If Romney recieved more legitmate votes then Johnson then no, they would not have equal status. Unless you just want to redo the whole election again? They'd have to do it before Janurary 20th though...Think they can actually do it in about 2 months?
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It has nothing to do with who got more. It has everything to do with who got 270 electoral votes.
 
Kal'Stang said:
If Romney recieved more legitmate votes then Johnson then no, they would not have equal status. Unless you just want to redo the whole election again? They'd have to do it before Janurary 20th though...Think they can actually do it in about 2 months?
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That's about the time between the conventions and the election.

Sorry, I'm going with this. It's a hypothetical world where the Constitution doesn't exist. Therefore in my hypothetical world, Bruce Springsteen has been crowned King of the Western Hemisphere. God save King Bruce.
 
rocket88 said:
Maybe he did hypothetically.
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That is not the outlines that the OP set out. The votes basically stay the same with the exception that Obama's votes were fraudulantly done enough to make him win the election. Now if Romney also fraudualantly added votes enough to make his votes high enough to go far above Johnson then I would agree that Johnson should be President. But the OP implied that it was only Obama that did this. So thats what we have to go by.

The OP was basically asking what should happen if it was proved that Obama won this election only because of fradulent votes that he orchastrated.

The way this thread has gone I've got a feeling that alot of the responses in this thread was due to partisan blinders being fogged up even more than usual due to an Obama victory. It seems that most people took this thread as an attack on Obama. Thinking perhaps that the OP was saying that it DID happen.
 
Kal'Stang said:
The way this thread has gone I've got a feeling that alot of the responses in this thread was due to partisan blinders being fogged up even more than usual due to an Obama victory. It seems that most people took this thread as an attack on Obama. Thinking perhaps that the OP was saying that it DID happen.
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That's the way this whole site has gone in the past week. Come down to the Presidential election forum. Did you know that it's IMPOSSIBLE for ticket splitting to occur. Therefore, the election was stolen.
 
haymarket said:
It has nothing to do with who got more. It has everything to do with who got 270 electoral votes.
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But thats the thing, if Obama rigged the election to where he got the 270 electoral votes then those electoral votes that went to Obama should have gone to the next runner up, Romney. Any of the other contenders, from what I saw, didn't even get 10% of the popular vote...much less 1 electoral vote.
 
Kal'Stang said:
But thats the thing, if Obama rigged the election to where he got the 270 electoral votes then those electoral votes that went to Obama should have gone to the next runner up, Romney. Any of the other contenders, from what I saw, didn't even get 10% of the popular vote...much less 1 electoral vote.
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all you have to do is provide the proof that Obama rigged the election and then we will entertain the validity of your further claims.
 
rocket88 said:
That's the way this whole site has gone in the past week. Come down to the Presidential election forum. Did you know that it's IMPOSSIBLE for ticket splitting to occur. Therefore, the election was stolen.
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Yeah, I decided to avoid that section from now on. Its just way too biased to make any debate worthy to join imo.
 
haymarket said:
all you have to do is provide the proof that Obama rigged the election and then we will entertain the validity of your further claims.
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And all that you have to do is expand your mind enough to realize that this is a hypothetical scenario. It could be applied to anyone, anytime, even a future election.

What would happen if this DID happen in some future election? What should happen?
 
Kal'Stang said:
And all that you have to do is expand your mind enough to realize that this is a hypothetical scenario. It could be applied to anyone, anytime, even a future election.

What would happen if this DID happen in some future election? What should happen?
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Good luck with that. I have no time for such things.
 
Goshin said:
That is the best argument I have heard for NOT impeaching Obama if we can possibly avoid it. :wassat1:
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Lots of people have been saying Biden should be pres if it were found out obama hid an impeachable offense in order to get elected and I suppose that would be the constitutional fact but really he was on the obama ticket and should also be disqualified. The media and unfortunately many regular people treat politics like a sport so if this were a sporting event Romney is awarded the win. It would be an interesting battle in the real world if obama was to be impeached in the scenario I presented though and I bet there would be a battle as to whether or not Biden was promoted.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Lots of people have been saying Biden should be pres if it were found out obama hid an impeachable offense in order to get elected and I suppose that would be the constitutional fact but really he was on the obama ticket and should also be disqualified. The media and unfortunately many regular people treat politics like a sport so if this were a sporting event Romney is awarded the win. It would be an interesting battle in the real world if obama was to be impeached in the scenario I presented though and I bet there would be a battle as to whether or not Biden was promoted.
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It does raise an interesting question, though. The Constitution only states that should the President be unseated, the Vice President takes his place as acting President, and that if the Vice President is removed, deceased, or otherwise unable to preform his duties, the President appoints a new VP. This was clarified by the 25th Amendment to the Constitution. However, I haven't been able to find anything stating what happens when both are removed.

Under terms of election fraud, I assume a new election would take place, but we all know what they say about assumptions. I do believe that it would be the most reasonable thing to do in this system, though.
 
Surtr said:
It does raise an interesting question, though. The Constitution only states that should the President be unseated, the Vice President takes his place as acting President, and that if the Vice President is removed, deceased, or otherwise unable to preform his duties, the President appoints a new VP. This was clarified by the 25th Amendment to the Constitution. However, I haven't been able to find anything stating what happens when both are removed.

Under terms of election fraud, I assume a new election would take place, but we all know what they say about assumptions. I do believe that it would be the most reasonable thing to do in this system, though.
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Speaker of the House is next in line after VP
 
Surtr said:
It does raise an interesting question, though. The Constitution only states that should the President be unseated, the Vice President takes his place as acting President, and that if the Vice President is removed, deceased, or otherwise unable to preform his duties, the President appoints a new VP. This was clarified by the 25th Amendment to the Constitution. However, I haven't been able to find anything stating what happens when both are removed.

Under terms of election fraud, I assume a new election would take place, but we all know what they say about assumptions. I do believe that it would be the most reasonable thing to do in this system, though.
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I think you are right about a new election, I wonder who the Dem's would run, not Hillary thats for sure she's up to her beady eyeballs in this.
 
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