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Will the Economy Recover Under 4 More Years of Obama?

Will the Economy Recover Under 4 More Years of Obama?

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Dooble said:
We've already seen. It's called track record. Obama's shown nothing that proves he needs four more years to fix the economy.
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Obama isn't interested in improving the economy. No Obama policy I'm familiar with is is focused on that. He's interested in increasing the size of government, promoting his socialist agenda, call it what you want, spreading the wealth, etc, and doling out large chunks of money to green companies for R&D of alternative energy sources.

Actually, Obamacare will create huge tax increases to ensure those who can't afford coverage, including illegal immigrants because it it illegal to deny them emergency services in most places, will receive medical insurance.

He also doesn't seem to be interested in paying down the debt. Where did the money go the auto companies allegedly repaid?

Anyone thinks that tax increases on the rich will enable government to pay down the debt is either naive, misinformed, or an Obamazombie.

If Obama wanted to bring the economy back to life he would reallocate federal funds for jobs training in high school programs like welding, auto repair, building construction, technical training, plumbing, etc, instead of pushing that everyone go to college.
 
Obamacare is about to hit.

Tax Hikes are about to hit.

The EU will continue to crumble.

China's bubble will pop.

We will continue to run up massive debt.


So........ No.



I wouldn't even think this is really the question. What I wonder more is - what are we going to look like in 15 years?
 
Let's see. Obama inherited two wars being run on the credit card. A housing/mortgage crisis with unaccountable accounting ( think mark to market ). Guantanamo. Torture. Rendition. 750,000 disappearing jobs each week. Has anything changed?
 
DaveFagan said:
Let's see. Obama inherited two wars being run on the credit card. A housing/mortgage crisis with unaccountable accounting ( think mark to market ). Guantanamo. Torture. Rendition. 750,000 disappearing jobs each week. Has anything changed?
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When will the Obamazombies stop apologizing for him? He wanted the job and he got it. Unfortunately he hasn't done much with it.
 
I say yes, but it has nothing to do with the president at all. It is the natural ebb and flow of our capitalist economy. We are recovering and will continue to do so president or not.
 
digsbe said:
Obama has had 4 years to fix the economy and so far it seems no better than when he came into office. Do you think after his next term that we will see full economic recovery and growth?
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To be perfectly honest, I don't know that Obama nor Romney could fix our problems.


The more I learn about how our economy is working these days, and how our government is overspending by selling bonds to itself, the more I worry that we're headed for big trouble that no politician is going to be able to bail us out of. I'm afraid what we've seen so far may only be the beginning... four years from now we may look back on 2012 and say "we didn't know how good we had it then."

I hope I'm wrong.
 
Goshin said:
To be perfectly honest, I don't know that Obama nor Romney could fix our problems.


The more I learn about how our economy is working these days, and how our government is overspending by selling bonds to itself, the more I worry that we're headed for big trouble that no politician is going to be able to bail us out of. I'm afraid what we've seen so far may only be the beginning... four years from now we may look back on 2012 and say "we didn't know how good we had it then."

I hope I'm wrong.
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I don't think that you are. :(
 
roflpublican said:
probably. but it would recover a lot quicker if the house would stop blocking everything. this recovery has been slow and painful because of gridlocking.

also: the economy is on much better footing than it was when obama took office:
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sorry to use this picture again but since the figures keep being ignored they need to be presented again.
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Ahaaa I see. its a smore. I thought it was a **** sandwich that Obama is feeding to us
 
roflpublican said:
probably. but it would recover a lot quicker if the house would stop blocking everything. this recovery has been slow and painful because of gridlocking.

also: the economy is on much better footing than it was when obama took office:
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What has the house specifically prevented that would have sped up the recovery?
 
I vote: "If the economy recovers, it will be in spite of the policies."
 
cpwill said:
Obamacare is about to hit.

Tax Hikes are about to hit.

The EU will continue to crumble.

China's bubble will pop.

We will continue to run up massive debt.


So........ No.



I wouldn't even think this is really the question. What I wonder more is - what are we going to look like in 15 years?
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Yes but no thanks to Obama, and not for 2 years. Like Clinton, the Republicans will take the House and Senate in 2014 and will step in to save the day for the last 2 years. Of course like Clinton, Obama will try to take all the credit, but we are used to that. At least we will finally have a good economy. If Obama is as smart like Clinton, he too will just get out of the way and let the Republicans put the economy back on track like they did before. I am thinking Obama has too big of an ego for that. We will just have to wait and see.
 
digsbe said:
Obama has had 4 years to fix the economy and so far it seems no better than when he came into office. Do you think after his next term that we will see full economic recovery and growth?
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First of all, I'd like to let you know I am in no way an Obama supporter. That being said, the fact that the economy, by any reasonable standard, has gotten much better than it was 4 years ago is certainly true. The causes of such recovery and/or improvement, however slight, are debatable. I am also in no way bashing the Bush administration, since the crisis and the various conflicts were in no way directly the Bush administrations fault. They were all caused by various factors, and the recovery was also caused by various factors, not solely because of the policies instituted by the current administrations policies.
 
roflpublican said:
you give the rich tax breaks, they'll fix the economy. actually they should pay negative taxes. we should pay them to live here.
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The gap between classes has been widening over the years, you wanna make that chasm even larger?
 
Cilogy said:
The gap between classes has been widening over the years, you wanna make that chasm even larger?
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yes. the rich must be placated. they will leave if we dont pay them more to stay.
 
digsbe said:
Obama has had 4 years to fix the economy and so far it seems no better than when he came into office. Do you think after his next term that we will see full economic recovery and growth?
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The economy is better from 4 years ago.
It will continue to get better, albeit somewhat slowly.

The housing market is in good recovery, stock market is largely up.
Yes things are getting better.
 
digsbe said:
Obama has had 4 years to fix the economy and so far it seems no better than when he came into office. Do you think after his next term that we will see full economic recovery and growth?
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It seems unlikely. The debt seems to continue growing regardless... Hopefully people can break this problem before the problem breaks America.
 
roflpublican said:
yes. the rich must be placated. they will leave if we dont pay them more to stay.
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I know I'm double-posting, but I actually want to amend my above comment to include the reality of the matter.

The rich didn't leave the country when taxes were slightly higher during the 90s. A return to those rates, which is exactly what is being proposed, is not going to end the world the way the right-wing fear-mongers want you to believe. We've heard a lot from Romney and other Republicans talking about how they want more people to be successful and widen the base of those who are wealthier, essentially, promote wealth. Look, that's great if you look at the world that way, but restricting the tax code and signing pledges to folks like Grover Norquist does none of that, it just makes those who are richer even richer, it widens the gap.
 
Cilogy said:
I know I'm double-posting, but I actually want to amend my above comment to include the reality of the matter.

The rich didn't leave the country when taxes were slightly higher during the 90s. A return to those rates, which is exactly what is being proposed, is not going to end the world the way the right-wing fear-mongers want you to believe. We've heard a lot from Romney and other Republicans talking about how they want more people to be successful and widen the base of those who are wealthier, essentially, promote wealth. Look, that's great if you look at the world that way, but restricting the tax code and signing pledges to folks like Grover Norquist does none of that, it just makes those who are richer even richer, it widens the gap.
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look mate liberal propaganda isnt going to change my opinions on this. we either pay the rich to stay or they leave. we can't live without them.
 
roflpublican said:
look mate liberal propaganda isnt going to change my opinions on this. we either pay the rich to stay or they leave. we can't live without them.
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How is it propaganda? It is a fact that the tax rates were higher during the 90s and the rich didn't magically dissipate, in fact you could probably find data showing the amount of rich people increased because the economy was doing so well. How many rich folks hollered and ran out of the country then? You're acting as if the proposition is to increase the rates multiple times over.
 
If it does recover, it will be thanks to the GOP controlled House blocking everything.
 
Fisher said:
If it does recover, it will be thanks to the GOP controlled House blocking everything.
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probably, the gridlock has so far generated a very reasonable recovery overall. if it continues for 4 more years at the current rate of gridlocked recovery, we'll be looking very respectable when obama leaves office. but, america is dying, because obama won.
 
roflpublican said:
probably, the gridlock has so far generated a very reasonable recovery overall. if it continues for 4 more years at the current rate of gridlocked recovery, we'll be looking very respectable when obama leaves office. but, america is dying, because obama won.
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Like a phoenix....worry not, 2016 will be here soon enough when Newt wins the nomination and selects Bachman as his running mate.
 
digsbe said:
Obama has had 4 years to fix the economy and so far it seems no better than when he came into office. Do you think after his next term that we will see full economic recovery and growth?
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It depends what happens globally. Our economy is fully globalized. We need jobs. How can we compete globally when a million hut dwellers will do the same job for penies!??:roll:
 
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