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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zariak View Post
    It may seem ridiculous and a totally disgusting breach of human rights, but in some cases, do some people deserve just as much pain as they inflicted onto their victims?
    I voted yes. I have no problems putting child rapists to torture. And I do mean CHILD RAPISTS. Not those that some 18 year old guy had consentual sex with thier 16+ year old boyfriend/girlfriend.
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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Why torture??

    Do we have to be just as sadistic as the people we are trying to punish? Is that the goal...?

    Stupid neanderthal like thinking...
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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Why in gods name would we torture. Its highly ineffective and why would go lower our societal standards to that evil sadistic level?


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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Why torture??

    Do we have to be just as sadistic as the people we are trying to punish? Is that the goal...?

    Stupid neanderthal like thinking...
    yes. we need to be sadistic. we need to make them understand that messing with america means you die, slowly. it means your children die, slowly. it means your entire extended family dies, slowly. we need to teach them why burning 3000 americans to death with jet fuel was a mistake. we need to teach this lesson violently, slowly, and methodically. so that when this lesson is learned, it will be a 1000 years before someone tries another 9/11 on american soil.

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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Quote Originally Posted by roflpublican View Post
    yes. we need to be sadistic. we need to make them understand that messing with america means you die, slowly. it means your children die, slowly. it means your entire extended family dies, slowly. we need to teach them why burning 3000 americans to death with jet fuel was a mistake. we need to teach this lesson violently, slowly, and methodically. so that when this lesson is learned, it will be a 1000 years before someone tries another 9/11 on american soil.
    yeah, well thats all fine and dandy in the mind of a psychotic but in reality land, no amount of torture is going to keep you safe at night. In-fact us torturing them might possibly just give them even more reason to do some more stupid **** just out of spite..
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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    yeah, well thats all fine and dandy in the mind of a psychotic but in reality land, no amount of torture is going to keep you safe at night. In-fact us torturing them might possibly just give them even more reason to do some more stupid **** just out of spite..
    they'll get the point eventually. torture is a dish best served slow.

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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Quote Originally Posted by roflpublican View Post
    they'll get the point eventually. torture is a dish best served slow.
    Yeah, lets just keep torturing them, and they can keep killing us, and we'll torture them some more, and they'll blow up a few hundred more people.. see the problem with this??
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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Yeah, lets just keep torturing them, and they can keep killing us, and we'll torture them some more, and they'll blow up a few hundred more people.. see the problem with this??
    hmmm...good point. but, i'm a big fan of hammurabi, so that skews my kumbaya sympathies.

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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Torture proves and accomplishes nothing. It merely shows a neanderthal mentality and lack of the ability to think.

    Anyone who thinks that torture will get you the information you want or will make the person being tortured or his faction change their minds is psychotically delusional.

    If I beat you up or hurt you repeatedly are you going to change your mind about me? No you will only think worse of me.

    Torture only makes more enemies not less. To thing otherwise is the idea of the brain dead.

    There are some who might argue that we can get information out of a torture victim. Maybe but how reliable? If you were being tortured would you just say something plausible to make it stop even for the short term or actually spill the beans. This is a toss up. The down side is you only create a wheel of hate that never stops spinning. To my mind that is not the point.

    Then there are the morons who say that if we torture them they will see what bad asses we are and quite being mean to us. People like that need professional help. Study after study shows this is bull****. If you want to coerse someone to help you or tell you something the better way is to try the guard/Prisoner method. I did not include the Stockholm syndrome because torture was involved there. There are other studies done where torture was not but making the prisoner totally reliant on the guard was.
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    Re: is torture a justifiable punishment in a first world civilized country?

    Quote Originally Posted by roflpublican View Post
    hmmm...good point. but, i'm a big fan of hammurabi, so that skews my kumbaya sympathies.
    we don't have to sit down at a camp fire and smoke a joint with them.. but torture isn't the answer, credible information rarely ever comes from it, and all it does is show the rest of the world that we are just as pathetic as the people we are trying to defeat.
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    Before the war is ended, the war party assumes the divine right to denounce and silence all opposition to war as unpatriotic and cowardly.
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    God, how patient are Thy poor! These corporations and masters of manipulation in finance heaping up great fortunes by a system of legalized extortion,
    and then exacting from the contributors--to whom a little means so much--a double share to guard the treasure!
    - Robert M. LaFollette, Wisconsin Governor and U.S. Senator

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