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Thread: Kids n' Kondoms

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    A) The education system has nothing to do with condoms. I don't see schools distributing flu shots, immunization shots to keep kids from getting sick.

    Why is this preventitive measure ok to be distributed in schools?

    B) We want our schools to teach curriculum that is scientifically sound, correct? Abstinence is proven to be the most effective way to prevent STD's and unwanted pregnancy.
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    Perhaps because such efforts could work towards keeping children in school, rather than being relegated to the role of a parental figure in their prime learning and developmental years. Also less pregnancies reduce the burden and costs imposed on the health care system, much like the rationale for distributing the aforementioned flu shots free of charge.

    Scientifically correct, sure, but pragmatism should enter the picture as well. Most of us recognize that kids who have willing sexual partners will have sex if possible and often so. Expecting otherwise and teaching accordingly is a recipe for disaster, evidenced by the abysmal failure abstinence only education has rendered thus far.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It creates a false claim of disease and pregnancy safety.
    Wrong. It creates a true claim of decreased risk.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Here's my beef with your ideas.
    A) The education system has nothing to do with condoms. I don't see schools distributing flu shots, immunization shots, or things like "Airraid" to keep kids from getting sick. Why is this preventitive measure ok to be distributed in schools? I tell you why. Because the education system continues to overstep it's bounds.
    Actually my school did provide flu shots and immunization shots. Why is it OK to provide condoms? Because the government has an interest in reducing its own future costs...and unwanted children are very expensive, not just for the parents but for the government too.

    B) We want our schools to teach curriculum that is scientifically sound, correct? Abstinence is proven to be the most effective way to prevent STD's and unwanted pregnancy. We don't teach kids in drivers ed how to drive and text in order to avoid a wreck do we? No. We teach them not to drive and text to begin with. The argument "well, they're going to do it anyway" holds no water. We could teach that about stealing (just steal a little bit), cheating (just get the answer to one question), fighting (not shots to the face), bullying (only if the victim laughs about it), and all sorts of other activities. But we don't. We teach that all of these things are wrong. We should teach that irresponsible sex between teens is as well. We should teach them that they have no idea about the physical and emotional ramifications that come from sex. I'm not against school's teaching about the anatomy of a human being. I'm not against them explaining what intercourse is. However, I am against them teaching my kid about how to have sex and avoid the consequences.
    I am sorry but the overwhelming body of scientific evidence disagrees with you. Students who have abstinence-only sex education generally have sex just as often - and start at the same age - as any other students. They are less likely to practice safe sex though.
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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Wrong. It creates a true claim of decreased risk.
    No, it does not. Your asserting it does isn't proof of anything.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No, it does not. Your asserting it does isn't proof of anything.
    Okayyyy. Who has made the claim that condoms are 100% safe?

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Wrong. It creates a true claim of decreased risk.
    That is the popular slogan, but it is false, untrue, proven false. If the condom is too small, it will break. If to large it will slip off. Either way - HIV/AIDS, ALL STDS and pregnancy risk. Over half of all handed out condoms are known to be the wrong size, resulting in breakage or slippage.



    Of generic condoms, over half are the wrong size: One size doesn't fit all

    In this study, a substantial number of men reported a variety of problems with the fit and feel of condoms. Specifically, 21 percent reported that condoms felt too tight; 18 percent reported that condoms felt too short; 10 percent reported that condoms felt too loose; and 7 percent reported that condoms felt too long.

    (total: 56% of genetic sized condoms - WRONG SIZE)

    The result is condom failure:

    Health professionals are regularly confronted by men's complaints that condoms do not fit, or that they are uncomfortable. Correct condom use is critical for preventing unwanted pregnancies and the spread of sexually transmissible infections (STI), yet an Indiana University study found that study participants who reported problems with the fit and feel of condoms were also among those who reported the highest rates of condoms breaking and slipping.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Let's teach them about oral sex and anal sex as alternative to avoid an unwanted pregnancy as well.


    Just trying to reduce future costs folks.
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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That is the popular slogan, but it is false, untrue, proven false.



    Of generic condoms, over half are the wrong size: One size doesn't fit all

    In this study, a substantial number of men reported a variety of problems with the fit and feel of condoms. Specifically, 21 percent reported that condoms felt too tight; 18 percent reported that condoms felt too short; 10 percent reported that condoms felt too loose; and 7 percent reported that condoms felt too long.

    (total: 56% of genetic sized condoms - WRONG SIZE)

    The result is condom failure:

    Health professionals are regularly confronted by men's complaints that condoms do not fit, or that they are uncomfortable. Correct condom use is critical for preventing unwanted pregnancies and the spread of sexually transmissible infections (STI), yet an Indiana University study found that study participants who reported problems with the fit and feel of condoms were also among those who reported the highest rates of condoms breaking and slipping.
    Link?

    It sounds to me like those complaints stem from not using condoms correctly, which is something that is addressed in sex ed.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Let's teach them about oral sex and anal sex as alternative to avoid an unwanted pregnancy as well.


    Just trying to reduce future costs folks.
    Anal sex has the highest rate of STDs transmission, oral sex the lowest.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Well, it may not be the government's responsibility, but the welfare mother payment cheques come out of YOUR taxes. HAHAHA
    Only because certain ignorant people in our society think it should. If welfare momma wants to take good care of herself, and her child, than that is a perfect job for charity, one in which I would donate to without question. That is also assuming we can get people to stop thinking that it's the government's job to clean up after people that **** on their own carpet, so to speak.

    Regardless, The term "Sins of the father" survived outside of the church for a reason.

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