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Thread: Kids n' Kondoms

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic View Post
    Sure. If they're old enough to have sex then they're old enough to have a job.
    Maybe, but here is the big difference. Sex comes whether you want it or not. Jobs don't.

    Most kids DO want to work, I worked a few times even without approval because I wanted to. (We are not all lazy.)

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Maybe, but here is the big difference. Sex comes whether you want it or not. Jobs don't.

    Most kids DO want to work, I worked a few times even without approval because I wanted to. (We are not all lazy.)
    I'm sorry, but that argument is invalid. Sex does not come whether you want it or not. You are not forced to have sex.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic View Post
    I'm sorry, but that argument is invalid. Sex does not come whether you want it or not. You are not forced to have sex.
    Of course, no forcing. This thread is not about some rape debate or famous teacher-student TV news story. For most people sex comes before they know what sex is, and this is why condoms are important.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Of course, no forcing. This thread is not about some rape debate or famous teacher-student TV news story. For most people sex comes before they know what sex is, and this is why condoms are important.
    Condoms are important, and should definitely be used. The problem is people have different views on whether pre-marital sex is moral, or if they approve of it, and I don't think that people who don't want the kids to have sex should have their tax dollars going to giving condoms to kids. I'm all for it if a charity wants to give it out, but don't make people pay for it unless they want to.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by roflpublican View Post
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    I think that anyone who believes teenagers, especially minors, should have access to cheap effective pregnancy prevention equipment, should have zero problem with the violent rape and murder of children.
    I see you have more insight into the lunacy of your side, than I.

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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Of course, no forcing. This thread is not about some rape debate or famous teacher-student TV news story. For most people sex comes before they know what sex is, and this is why condoms are important.
    You know - it's not like that all over the world . . . our society encourages it.
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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    All high school students should have access to free condoms from the school, so 15-16 when they are entering high school.
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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    See - I'm looking at all this as a parent: If my kids come home with condoms they're grounded . . . and the school's going to get their ass reamed for encouraging my children to have sex. Sex is a serious and irresponsible activity that should not be engaged in while they're teens. It is my job as a parent to try to get them to understand WHY.

    Everyone can put a lid on the 'but they'll do it anyway' crap - I'm attempting to raise my children to be BETTER than their impulses and desires and put their Futures before everything else. You know - saying no to peer pressure and no to drugs. I mean sure - some kids will do drugs anyway but I'd prefer my kids not be given a doobie with the belief that they were going to be one of those few anyway. Same thing. I will not just ASSUME my kids will be the ones to do the stupid **** that they shouldn't do. That's just beign a failure as a parent if you have that thought in your head about your kids all the time.

    I'm not raising them to just think it's ok to run around and **** just because they want to . . . the whole 'they'll do it anyway' is true for SOME but when people start making serious decisions BASED on that as if it's a fact applied to all then that's SERIOUSLY ****ed up.

    I think it's a sad fact that people just expect the lowest behavior and are willing to just excuse it or brush it off like it's not important or an issue at all. . . just 'whatever' . . . ridiculous.
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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    See - I'm looking at all this as a parent: If my kids come home with condoms they're grounded . . . and the school's going to get their ass reamed for encouraging my children to have sex. Sex is a serious and irresponsible activity that should not be engaged in while they're teens. It is my job as a parent to try to get them to understand WHY.

    Everyone can put a lid on the 'but they'll do it anyway' crap - I'm attempting to raise my children to be BETTER than their impulses and desires and put their Futures before everything else. You know - saying no to peer pressure and no to drugs. I mean sure - some kids will do drugs anyway but I'd prefer my kids not be given a doobie with the belief that they were going to be one of those few anyway. Same thing. I will not just ASSUME my kids will be the ones to do the stupid **** that they shouldn't do. That's just beign a failure as a parent if you have that thought in your head about your kids all the time.

    I'm not raising them to just think it's ok to run around and **** just because they want to . . . the whole 'they'll do it anyway' is true for SOME but when people start making serious decisions BASED on that as if it's a fact applied to all then that's SERIOUSLY ****ed up.

    I think it's a sad fact that people just expect the lowest behavior and are willing to just excuse it or brush it off like it's not important or an issue at all. . . just 'whatever' . . . ridiculous.
    I think that every parent wants to believe that his/her own children are the exception to the rule, and that if only the parent does a good job and teaches their kid the right values, that they'll overcome the laws of biology...but I'm sorry, the facts and statistics suggest otherwise. About half of all teens have sex before they finish high school, and most of the rest have sex within just a few years thereafter. This isn't due to any character flaw on the kid's part, or any bad parenting on the parent's part, it's just human nature.

    I will not just ASSUME my kids will be the ones to do the stupid **** that they shouldn't do.
    I don't have any kids, but if I ever do I will assume that they WILL be the ones to do stupid ****. That seems like a far safer course of action when it comes to their sexual health.
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    Re: Kids n' Kondoms

    It costs society far less to make condoms, the cheapest form of birth control, available to youths that want to have sex and thereby reducing resultant medical costs, contributing to unwanted children, etc then it does to hide them away for fear of encouraging sex. Moreover who really thinks some kid is going "Gee, I wasn't really thinking about having sex, but now that I have a condom I can totally do it!" It wasn't that long ago that many of us were 14 and so on.

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