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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    They do not have a right to a job at that particular place. Decisions have consequences. As Maggie pointed out, the First Amendment is a restriction on government, not a restriction on others.
    Right, that's the point. You have no freedom from consequences.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The real issue here is that people don't want to be called out for what they say. Nowheree in the
    Constitution are you guaranteed no consequences for your free speech.
    What a bizarre concept. You have a right to be put in prison for free speech, but you have free speech? Under your theory a person as a right to commit murder, but there can be consequences?

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Right, that's the point. You have no freedom from consequences.
    The business has the right to freedom of speech too and they can express it by firing a person. That does not mean that the government should haul people off to jail over it. Normative pressures work better than government regulations.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yes, I would say they are. The right to freedom of speech simply means that our government can't persecute us or abridge that right. It's not referring to a private citizen. You don't have some pure, unadulterated "right" to free speech.

    You don't have freedom of speech here. You don't have it at work. You don't have it on private property. Freedom of speech means freedom from government intervention for exercising your right to free speech. Vito Corleone may take exception to your right at any time.


    Public school is government.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Wow - criminalizing words.
    That's so - so - communistic.

    But schools have always treated them AS curse words - if they wrote '**** you, you ****ing ****hole ****face ****licker' they'd get in trouble too - what they said wasn't the only issue being addressed.

    So really - what people are wanting is for peopel to consider racial epithets to be like curse words.
    Well - they are, really. The majority of people don't go around saying them they're bleeped out and censored more than curse words are, really.

    Yeah, tell that to people who think its cool to go around saying, "White Boi"

    While I can't even call a 6 year old black kid boy without being racist.....
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    The business has the right to freedom of speech too and they can express it by firing a person. That does not mean that the government should haul people off to jail over it. Normative pressures work better than government regulations.
    I never said the government should, but societal pressure is something else altogether.


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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Public school is government.
    I think the point is that the athletes signed an agreement that they wouldn't do these things. My friend's wife is a public school teacher, and we couldn't have our fantasy football draft at his house because she had signed a "personal conduct agreement" that extended to anybody in her house.

    The Constitution does not guarantee a person's right to play on a football team. That is a priviledge that can be taken because of a person's behavior.


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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Yeah, tell that to people who think its cool to go around saying, "White Boi"

    While I can't even call a 6 year old black kid boy without being racist.....
    It's so hard being a white male conservative what with everybody being out to get you.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's so hard being a white male conservative what with everybody being out to get you.
    I fail to see where I claimed I was a conservative.....

    My lean describes me as a Libertarian.

    I reckon since I don't like being forced to be "Politically Correct" and I don't like the fact that people go out of their way and make a living out of finding new ways to be offended by someone that automatically makes me conservative...

    Whoda thunk it.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    The reason I said "directly affecting someone" is because this happened to me once. I had a crazy ex girlfriend who I broke up with and she decided to try and defame me by creating a fake website with all sorts of disgusting and untrue things on it about me. I had to use my school resource officer to get her to take it down, since it was in fact illegal.
    I had a similar experience. When I was in high school, this kid who was bullying me made a website (outside of school, on his own time) devoted to harassing me and spreading rumors about me. Fortunately my school got involved when they found out about it, and helped me get it taken down.
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