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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Because bullying other students affects their ability to learn.



    Because stuff that students do off-campus can impact their own or other students' ability to learn.
    No not necessarily, its the bullied students choice whether it affect there ability to learn in school, because it didn't happen in school. If it happened in school the bullies are directly impacting the students ability to learn, otherwise no.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    No not necessarily, its the bullied students choice whether it affect there ability to learn in school, because it didn't happen in school. If it happened in school the bullies are directly impacting the students ability to learn, otherwise no.
    If you think that it's a "choice" whether being treated that way affects one's cognitive abilities (and why would anyone choose to be negatively affected if it's that simple?), then you must be very fortunate to have lived a conflict-free life. Not everyone is so lucky.
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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Physical violence aside, the real point here is that some people want to say racist things and hide behind the First Amendment when they get callled on it. If someone works in a retail environment and they insult the customers, they get fired, right? But don't they have the right to free speech?

    being fired by your employer is not state action unless you are actually a public employee. what would be first amendment issues is if you are arrested for saying something or denied government services.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    NO!!!

    1) 1st amendment
    2) give govt an inch, they take a mile, don't give the inch
    3) thought police
    4) Orwellian societies do that

    Why 'hate' speech and crimes should be legalized... It's a Fed scam
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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    When did statutory mandatory school attendance by children become statutory mandatory whole-life political correctness by children?
    I hardly think telling students not to go around saying the N-word qualifies as "mandatory whole-life political correctness," but to each his own.
    You've established a precedent. Where's the line? Where does it stop?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    When did statutory mandatory school attendance by children become statutory mandatory whole-life political correctness by children?
    I hardly think telling students not to go around saying the N-word qualifies as "mandatory whole-life political correctness," but to each his own.
    It certainly does, if the school's claimed authority to tell a student what he may or may not say extends to the student's own time, outside of school hours and away from school property.

    It's only a very, very small step between telling a student he may not use the N-word, and telling him what political or religious beliefs he is not allowed to express.

    Those on the left have a pretty solidly-established history of trying to suppress the expression of beliefs and opinions that they find disagreeable. To allow schools the authority that you advocate amounts to openly inviting abuse of that authority.
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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    I dunno, where I was in Chicago, if every kid that used the "N" word was put off sports teams or out of school, the areas schools would lose 80% of their students - and those remaining would be 95% white.

    I can honestly say that among blue collar type people, none used more racist slur language than African-Americans. About everyone. Every race. Some incessantly.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Not only no, but hell no. Yes they are inconsiderate and ignorant trains of thought, but the SCOTUS has deemed that the Unites States Constitution has limited hate speech to only certain utterances that incite riot and/or violence. This, as much as I dislike it, gives groups like the KKK, the Nazi Party, and the Black Panthers alike all certain rights to profess what they believe without the fear of executive reprisal, which is fundamental to preserving everyone's freedom.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Freedom of speech is Freedom of Speech. You will never get me to create an exception.
    While, technically, we still have freedom of speech, section 1021 of the NDAA dictates that if you say something, anything, that the government construes to mean that you "aid or support" (definition unclear) "directly or indirectly" (definition unclear) "associated forces" (definition not given), you can be arrested, and detained indefinitely without charges or due process and no attorney. No 3 phone calls. This is what happens when the media does not report important issues, and the few who do know what's going on who try to let everyone know so we can stop it, are labeled conspiracy theorists.

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    Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    While, technically, we still have freedom of speech, section 1021 of the NDAA dictates that if you say something, anything, that the government construes to mean that you "aid or support" (definition unclear) "directly or indirectly" (definition unclear) "associated forces" (definition not given), you can be arrested, and detained indefinitely without charges or due process and no attorney. No 3 phone calls. This is what happens when the media does not report important issues, and the few who do know what's going on who try to let everyone know so we can stop it, are labeled conspiracy theorists.
    I didn't vote for it and do not support it. I support free speech. I believe those idiots have the right to protest at funerals and I believe the friends and relatives of the fallen have the right to get in their face and tell them where they can stick their signs where paper cuts would be so much fun. I believe that the KKK has the right to march and folks have the right to get up in their face and curse them like they have never been cursed at before.

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