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Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

  • YES - anyone who dares question this is a psychotic conspiracy theorist

    Votes: 13 43.3%

  • NO - we may never really know the real reason, but the official story is a load of BS

    Votes: 17 56.7%
  • Total voters
    30
roflpublican said:
can we trust the media to report factual information?
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Depends on the reporter. But with the blogosphere and podcasts, there are plenty of small outfits out there that would put it out.
 
samsmart said:
Depends on the reporter. But with the blogosphere and podcasts, there are plenty of small outfits out there that would put it out.
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even if to do so opens them to an extrajudicial killing?
 
Klown said:
I thought that the TRUTH liberates us?

Must have been a dream
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Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth:   The Rules of Disinformation   (Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist)  by H. Michael Sweeney
 
Sarcogito said:
Exactly. While I can understand him waiting until after the election to do it so as not to become election fodder, it wouldn't have affected the election. Nobody would vote against a President because on of his appointees had an affair.

Second, what does this have to do with Benghazi? He can still be compelled to testify before Congress. And now that he has resigned he would even have less motivation to lie.

I am not seeing how this is anything other than the age old story of a powerful man getting caught cheating on his wife.
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I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. I'm also not buying that this had anything to do with Benghazi, either. I'm sure he was having an affair, a lot of people that high up have a mistress on the side, but that's no reason to resign unless somebody is threatening to expose him. Even if that is the reason, why admit it and humiliate his wife? This thing reeks of bull****.
 
Surtr said:
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. I'm also not buying that this had anything to do with Benghazi, either. I'm sure he was having an affair, a lot of people that high up have a mistress on the side, but that's no reason to resign unless somebody is threatening to expose him. Even if that is the reason, why admit it and humiliate his wife? This thing reeks of bull****.
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I was thinking he could have just resigned without mentioning the affair. But I am guessing he knew it was going to come out anyway. If the FBI knew about it then it is likely someone informed on him. Best to get ahead of the story to minimize the damage to your reputation.

And I do think he should have stepped down just out of fairness. The underlings who work a the CIA have to undergo lifestyle polygraphs and adultery can get them booted from the agency so why should the Director get special treatment?
 
roflpublican said:
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Remember my friend, the 20th century spewed out three major forms of fascism - Bolshevism, Nazism and Corporatism

All relied on spin and propaganda to convince their slaves - oooops, sorry, I meant CITIZENS - that they are free and live in a democracy and that the rest of the world is just jealous of our supreme superiority, and so most of the nations need to be attacked or have their sovereignty subverted and there resources Corporatised and taken from the local people.

Corporatism is the highest form of fascism yet devised by human civilisation (or rather un-civilisation)
 
Klown said:
Remember my friend, the 20th century spewed out three major forms of fascism - Bolshevism, Nazism and Corporatism

All relied on spin and propaganda to convince their slaves - oooops, sorry, I meant CITIZENS - that they are free and live in a democracy and that the rest of the world needs is just jealous, and so most of the nations need to be attacked or have their sovereignty subverted and there resources Corporatised and taken from the local people.

Corporatism is the highest form of fascism yet devised by human civilisation (or rather un-civilisation)
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at-least our form of facism won :D.
 
Klown said:
Remember my friend, the 20th century spewed out three major forms of fascism - Bolshevism, Nazism and Corporatism

All relied on spin and propaganda to convince their slaves - oooops, sorry, I meant CITIZENS - that they are free and live in a democracy and that the rest of the world is just jealous of our supreme superiority, and so most of the nations need to be attacked or have their sovereignty subverted and there resources Corporatised and taken from the local people.

Corporatism is the highest form of fascism yet devised by human civilisation (or rather un-civilisation)
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This thread too? Read one pseudo-intellectual book then spam the theme on every topic is not a strategy to make yourself interesting.
 
Sarcogito said:
I was thinking he could have just resigned without mentioning the affair. But I am guessing he knew it was going to come out anyway. If the FBI knew about it then it is likely someone informed on him. Best to get ahead of the story to minimize the damage to your reputation.
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Yeah, but that doesn't happen unless somebody wants him out. He was the Director of the CIA during a time of war. If the FBI knew about it, they would have the common sense to keep a lid on it. I don't think this was a simple resignation, he was ousted, and humiliated to boot. Someone really hated him, someone high enough to tell the Director of the CIA to eat a heaping bowl of dicks.

And I do think he should have stepped down just out of fairness. The underlings who work a the CIA have to undergo lifestyle polygraphs and adultery can get them booted from the agency so why should the Director get special treatment?
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The same reason a LT COL and a SGT MAJ get away with things PVT's and LT's can't. Fairness doesn't mean a damn thing.
 
I think adultery is still punishable under the UCMJ. So his resigning would make sense to avoid prosecution. Oh sorry head of CIA or former. So I have no idea why he would have to over an affair?
 
Surtr said:
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. I'm also not buying that this had anything to do with Benghazi, either. I'm sure he was having an affair, a lot of people that high up have a mistress on the side, but that's no reason to resign unless somebody is threatening to expose him. Even if that is the reason, why admit it and humiliate his wife? This thing reeks of bull****.
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It's just very peculiar. I'm glad you mentioned Holly Petraeus, the forgotten wife in all of this. Why humiliate her so publicly?

Krauthammer made an observation last night--that if the hope was that Benghazi would go away, and given what the media is guaranteed to report on, a sex scandal fits the bill.

Now, perhaps, Benghazi won't be swept under the rug even if this is for the wrong reason.
 
Blackdog said:
I think adultery is still punishable under the UCMJ. So his resigning would make sense to avoid prosecution. Oh sorry head of CIA or former. So I have no idea why he would have to over an affair?
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i dont think we're getting the real story. you dont suddenly become an adulterer after 38 years of loyal marriage and a flawless military career. something else went on we're not privy to, i believe.
 
Blackdog said:
I think adultery is still punishable under the UCMJ. So his resigning would make sense to avoid prosecution. Oh sorry head of CIA or former. So I have no idea why he would have to over an affair?
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Petraeus is no long a member of the military, so does the UCMJ apply here?
 
roflpublican said:
i dont think we're getting the real story. you dont suddenly become an adulterer after 38 years of loyal marriage and a flawless military career. something else went on we're not privy to, i believe.
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How do you know it was 38 years of loyal marriage? I actually would imagine a large amount of adultery occurs that late in a marriage. Your conspiracy theory idea sounds fun though.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
How do you know it was 38 years of loyal marriage? I actually would imagine a large amount of adultery occurs that late in a marriage. Your conspiracy theory idea sounds fun though.
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we would have heard something about it before, this timing is highly convenient after 38 years the time for this to happen is now right after obama's illegal actions. the general has been silenced/threatened, i think.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
How do you know it was 38 years of loyal marriage? I actually would imagine a large amount of adultery occurs that late in a marriage. Your conspiracy theory idea sounds fun though.
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I don't understand why you would imagine that longevity of a marriage correlates to adultery. My guess is that adultery often leads to divorce rather than a marriage of many years.
 
roflpublican said:
we would have heard something about it before, this timing is highly convenient after 38 years the time for this to happen is now right after obama's illegal actions. the general has been silenced/threatened, i think.
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So because it's never been in the news before we should assume it's never happened and that this is unprecedented? The truth is usually the simplest answer. He may or may not have cheated before, however, I find it unlikely that he gets caught the first time he cheated.

nota bene said:
I don't understand why you would imagine that longevity of a marriage correlates to adultery. My guess is that adultery often leads to divorce rather than a marriage of many years.
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Did I ever say it was correlated? I said it still occurs much more frequently than roflpublican's "doesn't happen".

After a marriage that long I can imagine some people start to lose the spark in their marriages, and want to feel wanted and desired again.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
So because it's never been in the news before we should assume it's never happened and that this is unprecedented? The truth is usually the simplest answer. He may or may not have cheated before, however, I find it unlikely that he gets caught the first time he cheated.


Did I ever say it was correlated? I said it still occurs much more frequently than roflpublican's "doesn't happen".

After a marriage that long I can imagine some people start to lose the spark in their marriages, and want to feel wanted and desired again.
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That's assuming that longevity extinguishes the spark and diminishes desireability. In the long, successful marriages I've observed, this just isn't so.
 
Neomalthusian said:
So, which is it?
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Having read a bit about the man himself, it would not surprise me that the reason given is indeed, the truth. He is known to be hypercritical of his own performance, and adheres to a very disciplined and strict lifestyle. Just may be, he feels he breached those exacting standards....

Paul
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
. He may or may not have cheated before, however, I find it unlikely that he gets caught the first time he cheated.
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That reminds me of the tv show "To Catch A Predator" where the criminal always states " this is the first time I ever done this"...lol

But I really don't think this is anybody's business other than Petraeus , his wife, and the mistress. Why does our government insist on being in our bedrooms?


As far as a conspiracy am not certain what the benefit of this all is. Are people suggesting the mistress was put up to this to bring Patraeus down?

One thing noted is that Patraeus did not fight back at this so I think he most likely has a whole lot of dirt under the rug he wants to keep that way.

As I have always said, Men are Jackasses.
 
nota bene said:
It's just very peculiar. I'm glad you mentioned Holly Petraeus, the forgotten wife in all of this. Why humiliate her so publicly?

Krauthammer made an observation last night--that if the hope was that Benghazi would go away, and given what the media is guaranteed to report on, a sex scandal fits the bill.

Now, perhaps, Benghazi won't be swept under the rug even if this is for the wrong reason.
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I don't think Benghazi is even part of the equation. Everybody knows damn well that the American attention span is very short. I give it one month before the general public forgets all about it. This feels like something different, but without all the facts, I can't possibly say for sure. Had he simply resigned, I would think he was just tired of it all. He spent 37 years in the Army, and then got appointed as head of the CIA, which had to be a drastic change. Whatever the reasons behind it, whoever wanted him out, also wanted to humiliate him, and they had the position and power to do it.

And for the record, I'm not implying it was President Obama in any way.
 
I hate and detest these controlled choices , or anything controlled...
So - no vote!
People should question these things.......however, and I will try not be judgemental.
What this gentleman did was NOT heinous, in my opinion, and the public should NOT know about it
The public should learn to mind their own business.
We need a better people....all around....
 
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roflpublican said:
i dont think we're getting the real story. you dont suddenly become an adulterer after 38 years of loyal marriage and a flawless military career. something else went on we're not privy to, i believe.
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Anyone who has served in the military can tell you that is flat out wrong. General and flag officers are often busted in infidelity. It is a common headline in the Army Times.

The all of a sudden becoming an adulterer after 38 year is suspect, though. Suspect in that I highly doubt it was his first time. Infidelity is rampant in the military, including in the upper echelons.

I don't know why people associate being a decorated military officer with being a faithful husband. They have nothing to do with each other.
 
Crosscheck said:
That reminds me of the tv show "To Catch A Predator" where the criminal always states " this is the first time I ever done this"...lol

But I really don't think this is anybody's business other than Petraeus , his wife, and the mistress. Why does our government insist on being in our bedrooms?


As far as a conspiracy am not certain what the benefit of this all is. Are people suggesting the mistress was put up to this to bring Patraeus down?

One thing noted is that Patraeus did not fight back at this so I think he most likely has a whole lot of dirt under the rug he wants to keep that way.

As I have always said, Men are Jackasses.
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If you work for a spook agency, who you sleep with can be extremely important.
 
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