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    Re: Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    A Message From Beyond - NYTimes.com

    MY WIFE’S LOVER

    My wife is having an affair with a government executive. His role is to manage a project whose progress is seen worldwide as a demonstration of American leadership. (This might seem hyperbolic, but it is not an exaggeration.) I have met with him on several occasions, and he has been gracious. (I doubt if he is aware of my knowledge.) I have watched the affair intensify over the last year, and I have also benefited from his generosity. He is engaged in work that I am passionate about and is absolutely the right person for the job. I strongly feel that exposing the affair will create a major distraction that would adversely impact the success of an important effort. My issue: Should I acknowledge this affair and finally force closure? Should I suffer in silence for the next year or two for a project I feel must succeed? Should I be “true to my heart” and walk away from the entire miserable situation and put the episode behind me?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    It's not a "nut bag conspiracy theory" to simply state that one does not believe the official reason given by Petraeus as to his resignation. It's simply a matter of sensing that one is being lied to, and that's it.



    If he had said "I just want to spend more time with family," as iguanaman suggested he could have used as a cover story if he needed, would you have believed that cover story too?

    I don't believe people as powerful as the Director of the CIA are appointed simply on merit nor do they resign for the simple, ultimately silly reasons they offer upon resignation. It's much more politically complex than that. But I guess some people stick to their fairytale notions of government.
    And some people just love conspiracy theories - especially if we can somehow blame....wait for it....OBAMA!
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    Re: Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I'm not asking anyone to "prove" anything.
    I am asking for some sort of evidence before I discard a perfectly reasonable hypothesis that Petraeus is telling the truth.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    There is no way to know.

    Resigning over an affair by itself makes no sense and going on nation television acknowledging an affair certainly isn't face saving for him and certainly not for his wife.

    That is the oddity of it. If he felt he needed to resign due to an affair (which makes no sense), then ANY normal person would have just resigned - a reason not required to resign. For him to to do some Jimmy Swaggert-style "Forgive me for I have sinned" on a national and International broadcast to everyone on earth is bizarre.

    And if that is the reason, he is a TOTAL ASSHOLE for that public declaration, which actually then is just him bragging about having an affair and to the humiliation of his wife of 37 years. If he felt he had to resign, then he should have just resigned.

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    Re: Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    A Message From Beyond - NYTimes.com
    MY WIFE’S LOVER
    My wife is having an affair with a government executive. His role is to manage a project whose progress is seen worldwide as a demonstration of American leadership. (This might seem hyperbolic, but it is not an exaggeration.) I have met with him on several occasions, and he has been gracious. (I doubt if he is aware of my knowledge.) I have watched the affair intensify over the last year, and I have also benefited from his generosity. He is engaged in work that I am passionate about and is absolutely the right person for the job. I strongly feel that exposing the affair will create a major distraction that would adversely impact the success of an important effort. My issue: Should I acknowledge this affair and finally force closure? Should I suffer in silence for the next year or two for a project I feel must succeed? Should I be “true to my heart” and walk away from the entire miserable situation and put the episode behind me?

    Honestly, if you are telling the truth, I don't see how you can possibly stand it, unless your marriage is just a matter of convenience. Dishonesty in such an intimate relationship is a deal-breaker in my book, unless, of course, when it is brought out in the open and the spouse should show some real sense of contrition. Everyone makes mistakes, and those kinds of mistakes are usually due a fault in the relationship to begin with, where both parties are to blame. If true love exists and there are others (children) that will be hurt by the split, if at all possible, it is good to reconcile, but to live a sham is shameful, project or no project.



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    Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    And some people just love conspiracy theories - especially if we can somehow blame....wait for it....OBAMA!
    It was actually my intent to get people to come out and shout "conspiracy theory" at the mere suggestion of a lie or cover story. I have no theory on all this. The fact that I sniff out bull**** does not obligate me to prove the real story with a novel's worth of material.

    Either you can tell when you're being bull****ted or you can't.

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    Re: Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    Quote Originally Posted by roflpublican View Post
    he's an american hero, he should not be swept under the rug for obama's failure to lead.
    We don't even know that is the case right now. I mean, it's certainly possible, but there's nothing that indicates that sort of conspiracy.


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    Re: Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Conspiracies are never pointless. If they were pointless, no one would conspire. Did you mean conspiracy theory?

    It's pretty simple. Either you believe and/or acknowledge you're being lied to, or you believe everything the media reports on behalf of our government. Thanks for answering.
    Sorry... what? How about.... either you simply accept the world isn't full of conspiracies with big bad boogie men, or you come up with a realistic interpretation for why Petreaus resigned. Saying that he resigned so he wouldn't have to testify in front of congress makes you looks about as clueless as the average pundit.
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    Re: Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    The fact that I sniff out bull**** does not obligate me to prove the real story with a novel's worth of material.
    You're welcome to believe anything you wish. You only have to provide evidence if you wish to persuade someone else. If you have no desire to persuade or debate, then you're posting because of idk what.
    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Either you can tell when you're being bull****ted or you can't.
    I'm sure you're one of the few people in the world who has no errors of thought or perception of facts--just like everyone else on the interwebz.

    The typical internet user ... has an IQ of 147 and a 9-inch penis.
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    Re: Did Petraeus REALLY resign over an extramarital affair?

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Honestly, if you are telling the truth...
    I am worried that you think I wrote the letter. I didn't. I suspect that the husband of the woman Petraeus was fooling around with wrote the letter. That's why I included it in this thread.
    I may be wrong.

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