View Poll Results: What changes should be done to our immigration policy

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  • Leave it as it is-some quotas based on countries of origin

    5 11.11%
  • do not change the laws but enforce them better

    10 22.22%
  • Restrict immigration to those with needed skills

    15 33.33%
  • restrict immigration to those able to provide for themselves

    11 24.44%
  • Have a complete moratorium on immigration for a period of years

    6 13.33%
  • Other

    17 37.78%
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Thread: Immigration reform

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    Re: Immigration reform

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    Re: Immigration reform

    We have sufficient laws on the books, but lack the will to enforce them. Until we show the will to enforce those laws, there's no need to do anything else.

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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Crime should not be rewarded. Other people wait in line to enter our country legally, so why should everyone else bend over backwards to cater to those who break into our nation? It's rather telling how wrong the progressives/liberals are in their thinking when you consider, iirc, that Mexico has stricter immigration laws.
    New Zealand-from what I have been told, won't let you in if you cannot prove you will be a net tax payer

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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If they can't afford legal employees then they shouldn't be in business in the first place.
    I thought restricting illegal immigration was about supporting jobs.
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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Farmers could pay $15 n hour and people still wouldn't do the work. Working in a tobacco field is hard ass work. I'm sure bending over all day in hot dirty conditions picking onions is not easy either. The point isn't the pay so much as the actual work that is being done.
    I've pulled tobacco. Fun stuff. Throw away your clothes at the end of the split-shift day. Paid well though. It was a way to make some decent scratch when I was too young to legally work. I wouldn't do it 7 days a week though.

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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Crime should not be rewarded. Other people wait in line to enter our country legally, so why should everyone else bend over backwards to cater to those who break into our nation?
    Because they are already here, and most of them will not be leaving.

    It's rather telling how wrong the progressives/liberals are in their thinking when you consider, iirc, that Mexico has stricter immigration laws.
    Why should we base our immigration laws on Mexico's? I'm not sure if you've noticed but our economy is a little bit more vibrant and upscale than theirs. Perhaps they could learn a thing or two from our relatively liberal immigration policies.
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    Re: Immigration reform

    Mexico is overrun with Central American illegals that displace workers here which displace American workers. I would suggest that we really have to help Mexico in a very targeted way build their economy to help ebb the flow as we undertake increasing their VISA allotments, creating perhaps new classes of admissions, and make it easier for unskilled workers to come and go legally. The easier it is to get back in, the easier it will be to get them to leave when their work is done/visit is over. It isn't as if there isn't a societal cost to Mexico in the current regime in which broken and used up bodies from slaving in the US litter their economy as well so we do have a mutual interest in a more sensible and respectful practical approach to the problems.

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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    I thought restricting illegal immigration was about supporting jobs.
    It is.These scumabgs who hire illegals are just trying to pressure law makers into getting rid their state's anti-illegal immigration law. They are trying to claim that since no one will work for **** wages then they should be allowed to hire illegals.
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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It is.These scumabgs who hire illegals are just trying to pressure law makers into getting rid their state's anti-illegal immigration law. They are trying to claim that since no one will work for **** wages then they should be allowed to hire illegals.
    indeed, the days of the robber barons are gone, pay a living wage or you should NOT be able to operate a business in this country.

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    Re: Immigration reform

    I picked restrict immigration to skills we need. After all, immigration is supposed to be to better our country, not to make someone else's life better. I also selected the second option, not for the "don't change them" part but for the "enforce them better" part. We need to enforce our immigration laws across the board and any city or state that refuses to do so should lose all federal funding until they man up and do their jobs.
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