View Poll Results: What changes should be done to our immigration policy

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  • Leave it as it is-some quotas based on countries of origin

    5 11.11%
  • do not change the laws but enforce them better

    10 22.22%
  • Restrict immigration to those with needed skills

    15 33.33%
  • restrict immigration to those able to provide for themselves

    11 24.44%
  • Have a complete moratorium on immigration for a period of years

    6 13.33%
  • Other

    17 37.78%
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Thread: Immigration reform

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    Re: Immigration reform

    Reform it. Make it easier to become citizen. Make it easier to get a work visa. Make the path to citizenship a lot more simpler and easier.


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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Reform it. Make it easier to become citizen. Make it easier to get a work visa. Make the path to citizenship a lot more simpler and easier.
    even for people who have no skills or education and have a very high probability of becoming dependent on handouts?

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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the problem is the fact that a majority of these people vote themselves more benefits the rest of us pay for. And yes, that means they support your party because your party is the one that is most likely to redistribute income.
    Thank you Turtle for clarifying that my rewording of the position in the OP is indeed spot on and accurate.
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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Reform it. Make it easier to become citizen. Make it easier to get a work visa. Make the path to citizenship a lot more simpler and easier.
    but that should not become an anchor family for others who do not meet the qualifications to arrive, only to qualify for near immediate welfare benefits
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Reform it. Make it easier to become citizen. Make it easier to get a work visa. Make the path to citizenship a lot more simpler and easier.
    Pretty much this.


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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am not grateful if they are using the safety net. if they are working hard and paying their way that is different. and I don't blame just the democrats who want more votes for allowing this mess. plenty of GOP business owners like illegals or legal unskilled labor to help suppress wages
    http://www.newsmax.com/US/Georgia-Im...6/23/id/401166

    tell me what you think of this?

    Apparently the only people who are willing to do this work for this little pay is unskilled immigrants be they legal or otherwise. Just want your take on this situation.
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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    even for people who have no skills or education and have a very high probability of becoming dependent on handouts?
    Yes. Indeed....


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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    http://www.politifact.com/georgia/st...-close-400-mi/

    tell me what you think of this?

    Apparently the only people who are willing to do this work for this little pay is unskilled immigrants be they legal or otherwise. Just want your take on this situation.
    you actually make an excellent point to be more restrictive - at least as far as minimum qualifications - in order to be eligible for immigration status
    this nation is filled with underskilled people looking for work
    if they were not competing against illegals for those menial labor positions, they could earn a living wage
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Immigration reform

    I believe Turtle is right on this. Hispanics broke for Pres Obama in droves during this election. Just because someone is a legal citizen doesn't mean they A) Dont' have an illegal relative(s) B) Don't know an illegal immigrant C) Weren't an illegal themselves at some point D) Simply see Gov Romney's self deportation statement as general discrimination or lack of concern for hispanics. Further evidence of this is that Pres Bush II got a lot more of the hispanic vote because his immigration policies were much more moderate. I'm not saying they are wrong about that. I didn't vote for Gov Romney for many reasons. But first and foremost was the simple fact that I believe he would get us into another useless war/conflict. I probably could've overlooked a lot of the other stuff but that issue made me write in Ron Paul instead of vote for Romney. Some people are one issue voters, that's all there is to it. When that one issue is the deportation of your relatives/friends or the perceived general lack of concern for your entire race, it equals a landslide break for Pres Obama. I don't blame them either. I'd probably do the same thing if I were hispanic.
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    Re: Immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you actually make an excellent point to be more restrictive - at least as far as minimum qualifications - in order to be eligible for immigration status
    this nation is filled with underskilled people looking for work
    if they were not competing against illegals for those menial labor positions, they could earn a living wage
    refresh.. I posted the wrong link..

    The new link talks about how there is 11,000 jobs that need to be filled in the absence of Georgia's new immigration law. These positions they suggest filling with people currently serving time in jail, mainly because no one else will do the work.

    Farmers do not have profit margins like big business. They can't afford to pay people high wages to pick produce from crops. Therefor its a symbiotic relationship between farmers and immigrants. Always has been.
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