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    Re: 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Unincorporated organized territories

    Guam (since 1898): also the home of a U.S. Naval Base and a U.S. Air Force Base.
    Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands: formerly a United Nations Trust Territory under the administration of the United States, it established itself as a U.S. Commonwealth in 1978.
    Puerto Rico (since 1898): established as a U.S. Commonwealth in 1952.
    United States Virgin Islands (since 1917): these were purchased by the U.S. from Denmark.



    Territories of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    And BTW, there's nothing particularly new about US territories becoming states. Its be done 37 times since the country was started when we only had 13.
    Do you agree that the US having territories is anachronistic?

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    Re: 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It's only anachronistic in the fact that America's more explicit imperialist past is long since behind her, but it in of itself is not anachronistic for the United States.
    It just seems to me like a remnant of that period.

    I am not familiar with the offer of statehood to the US territories. If they haven't been offered, they definitely should, and Congress should approve.


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    Re: 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Do you agree that the US having territories is anachronistic?
    Academically, yes. As a practical matter, no. I lived in a US territory and the people there are content and in fact feel privileged to be part of the US as US territorial citizens. Unlike European colonialism, the US treats its territories rather well (I know that sounds horrible like good slaves masters ) but its true. Natural disasters hit and FEMA and the National Guard are there immediately. Part of the US federal budget so a decent infrastructure compared to neighboring places that are essentially third world countries. No restrictions whatsoever on travel and relocation to anywhere in the states. Eligibility for all the services any US citizen gets from student loans and Pell Grants to joining the US Armed Forces as Commission Officers. And operating under the principle of "no taxation without representation" since their Congressman can't vote bills into law in the full House and to vote for POTUS, the federal government has a VERY favorable taxation relationship with the territories. All federal taxes raised in a territory stay in the territory to operate the territorial government while still being eligible for various federal projects funding the rest of the country gets.
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    Re: 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Should we even care whether Puerto Rico says 'Yes' to Statehood?
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    Re: 51st State?

    I guess one could argue against it geographically, but then Alaska, Hawaii are states.can't see why anyone else would object? Politically?

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    Re: 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Why isn't it our choice?
    I have no particular reason to NOT want them to be a state, so I'll defer to their wishes.
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    Re: 51st State?

    Hey, what's the matter man? We're comin round next year with some Puerto Rican state that's just dyin to meetcha!
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    Re: 51st State?

    No. Kick them out, to become the country of puerto Rico. A burden on us, freeloaders (somewhat).

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    Re: 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Should we even care whether Puerto Rico says 'Yes' to Statehood?
    I don't care if Puerto Rico becomes the 51st state. Diversity is a ****en retarded reason to add a state.
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    Re: 51st State?

    I just can't imagine why liberals would want to add a state of destitute people. Hmmmmm, just can't think of a single reason.
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