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    Re: Will Obama live up to his victory speech?

    I chose "no".

    But I clarify by saying that I don't think any president has ever lived up to any of their speeches.
    Maybe Washington, some of the early ones.
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    Re: Will Obama live up to his victory speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    While I watched Obama's speech last night, I certainly felt happy, reassured and excited for the future. He is an exceptional orator who makes those who stand with him truly feel that they are a meaningful part of something important. At the same time, in the back of mind I could not help but wonder if he's going to live up to the vision he painted for the country last night. He said things that he hasn't said in this entire election season and, in some ways, in the past four years.

    I wonder if he now feels he get more done now that he doesn't have to worry about re-election or if it will be another four years of Obama not going as far as should have gone. In my opinion, he didn't push hard enough on Healthcare, he was too cautious about same-sex marriage, he significantly overreached by supporting warrant-less surveillance, his education policies weren't ideal and he didn't do enough to increase employment. (There's more, but I'll stop there.)

    So, my question, mostly to those who voted for Obama:
    Do you think Obama will live up to nation he painted in his victory speech and throughout the campaign?


    Video of speech: President Barack Obama - 2012 Re-election Acceptance Speech - YouTube
    Transcript of speech: Transcript: Obama’s Victory Speech - Washington Wire - WSJ
    I didn't vote for Obama, but I read the transcript, and I will say that I don't see how many of the things he stated are possible within the time frame of his final term. I would love to see the national debt paid off, and actual inequality ended, but in four years, do you really think we can eliminate a 16 trillion dollar deficit? Or bypass the bickering and heated disagreements of what inequality actually is, and how to define it? And how do we stop global warming? Tear down our entire automotive and industrial infrastructure to build new "clean" alternatives? And what's this "generous" and "compassionate" America he speaks of? When was that supposed to ever take place in our very violent and brutal history? How can he speak of compassion as he sends drones and airstrikes over the Middle East after promising to end our theaters of war?

    He can do some things, but he can't do everything, and I don't believe for one second he can create his vision of America in four years. It's just impossible. When you throw in the resistance he will undoubtedly receive from Congress, he may not be able to check anything off his list. We'll certainly see, and I wish him the best of luck, because I do like some of the things he wants for the nation, I just don't agree with how he wants to get us there, if that makes any sense.
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    Re: Will Obama live up to his victory speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    I didn't vote for Obama, but I read the transcript, and I will say that I don't see how many of the things he stated are possible within the time frame of his final term. I would love to see the national debt paid off, and actual inequality ended, but in four years, do you really think we can eliminate a 16 trillion dollar deficit? Or bypass the bickering and heated disagreements of what inequality actually is, and how to define it? And how do we stop global warming? Tear down our entire automotive and industrial infrastructure to build new "clean" alternatives? And what's this "generous" and "compassionate" America he speaks of? When was that supposed to ever take place in our very violent and brutal history? How can he speak of compassion as he sends drones and airstrikes over the Middle East after promising to end our theaters of war?

    He can do some things, but he can't do everything, and I don't believe for one second he can create his vision of America in four years. It's just impossible. When you throw in the resistance he will undoubtedly receive from Congress, he may not be able to check anything off his list. We'll certainly see, and I wish him the best of luck, because I do like some of the things he wants for the nation, I just don't agree with how he wants to get us there, if that makes any sense.
    It makes perfect sense to me...it's what I've been saying in this thread. The only difference between you and me is that I DON'T wish him luck...I hope he fails...BECAUSE of how he wants to get us there.
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    Re: Will Obama live up to his victory speech?

    Hopefully he does a better job this term. That's all any of us can hope for.

    I didn't vote for him. I voted for Gary Johnson. Regardless, I still hope his second term is a great one, because we're going to be the ones reaping what Obama sows.

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