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  • Open borders to everyone regardless of nationality

    2 6.67%
  • Grant full citizenship to anyone regardless of nationality

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  • Recognize Puerto Rico as a state with full entitlements to its people

    6 20.00%
  • Offer statehood to Mexico, Central & South American with full citizens entitlements

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Thread: End United States Discrimination against the world?

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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    Obviously some people are thinking with their hearts instead of the BRAINS.

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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I have to laugh at the one about offering statehood to Mexico. Seriously? Who in the heck voted yes to that and their drug wars and cartels? How stupid. I can't even believe it.
    Do you have a "better idea" ?
    I THINK that I do.
    Let them come over here, if no work, feed them less than what they had in Mexico.
    They will return to Mexico, I'd think.
    In other words, the "Illegals" have the answer.

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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Do you have a "better idea" ?
    I THINK that I do.
    Let them come over here, if no work, feed them less than what they had in Mexico.
    They will return to Mexico, I'd think.
    In other words, the "Illegals" have the answer.
    WHAT? That's just crazy.

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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    Not only no or even hell no, but hell ****ing no.
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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    I've got an idea. Buckle down on those employers who hire illegals and adopt better identification procedures, such as making it so that identifications are more difficult to fake, STOP issuing drivers licenses to illegal immigrants (which is a valid form of identification and some states do this), actually make it so that people are required to CHECK on those who they suspect might be illegal, perhaps even streamline the LEGAL immigration process so that it doesn't take YEARS for people to become a LEGAL citizen. ALL of these options together would probably be MUCH cheaper than allowing whomever to cross the border and collect social services and benefits.

    If you let people from other countries come here freely without becoming citizens, and they can't find work, they will be eligible to collect off our social service programs, which most 3rd world countries do NOT have, so even if they couldn't find a job they would still probably stay and collect welfare or unemployment.

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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    The number of those who have invaded our borders, mostly unskilled, and those citizens unemployed and living off the government, mostly unskilled, are about equal.
    The math is simple, and the solution just as simple. All illegals must go. Accomplish this by enforcing the laws already on the books. Prosecute all who aid and abet, including those hiring offering assistance and sanctuary, and all those who are illegal. No excuses, no extenuating circumstances.

    IDK is not the same as hell no.

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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    But "no solution" offered ???
    Not even a philosophy....
    Me - no vote or other...and a rant/rave.


    Solutions for illegal immigration-

    1.Stick the military on the Border. We got lots of troops all across the globe. Close every single over seas base and put troops on our southern and northern borders.These troops will also boost the economies of the local towns and cities on or near the border because soldiers will buy things and purchase services from shops in those towns and cities.

    2.Require a birth certificate(or a certificate of naturalization or some other immigration document that says they have a right to be here) and SS card to get and to renew a state issued ID or driver's license.

    4.Require hospitals to notify authorities of illegals.We require hospitals to notify authorities of gun shot victims so notifying the authorities of illegals should be no different.

    5.Require banks,money wiring services, check cashing service, money loan and credit services to verify that the customer has a state issued ID/driver's license.

    6.Require property owners to verify that the potential property owner, renter,leaser or anyone else intenting to use that property has a state issued driver's license.

    7.Require that anyone seeking to get welfare,food stamps,section 8 housing or any other form of tax payer aid present a state issued driver's license or ID.

    8.Require anyone seeking state services such as business licenses,Hunting and fishing licenses and etc to present a state issued ID or driver's license .

    9.Require anyone using a public utility to present a state issues ID or driver's license

    10.Require auto dealerships,auto rental places and anyone else selling,lending, leasing or letting someone borrow a car verify that the individual has a state issued driver's license.

    11.Require schools to check the state issued driver's licenses or IDs of anyone trying to enroll themselves or their kids into school.

    12.Use assets and forfeiture laws that apply to drug dealers and others who profit from illegal activities and apply those laws to those who hire illegals since those who hire illegals profit from illegal activities or use their money for illegal activities.But only a guilty conviction has been found.

    13.Throw those who hire illegals into prison,after fining them and permanently deny them any licenses to run a business or farm.

    14.Revoke the part in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children. Thus this would end anchor babies

    15.Push for an amendment to ban citizenship to children born here to non-citizens and require that at least the mother be a citizen or a father with a DNA test to grant birthright citizenship seeing how people like to deliberately ignore the intent of the 14th amendment's author.

    The 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the dangerous misinterpretation of the birthright citizenship clause - DA King - the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship -

    Before its ratification in 1868, Michigan's Senator Jacob Howard, author of the citizenship clause, made the intent crystal clear to the Senate: "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include all other classes of persons."


    16.Raid day labor sites. Send uncover ICE agents and or local law enforce to pretend to be individuals hiring illegals and send ICE and or local law enforcement to pretend to be illegals in order to nab scum who hire illegals.

    17.Permanently ban anyone from owning or running a company who previously was caught hiring illegals,selling real estate or cars to illegals or provided money wiring services to illegals.

    18.Any illegal who is caught the first time gets sent to 6 months in jail and then deported.Any illegal who is caught gets 2 years in prison and then deported.

    19.Any illegal who caught shall have dna samples,photo and finger prints taken and stored in a data base use to permanently deny that individual entry into this country.

    20.Require that the immigration status of anyone arrested be verified(this has already been done in Oklahoma).

    21. Require that all employers use e-verify and penalize those who don't

    22.Temporarily cut off citizens of countries we have the most illegal immigration problems with entry into this country. That means no more work visas, immigration visas, no more visas of any kind of any country we have a significant illegal immigration problem with. Once it has been determined that a huge significant portion of illegals of those countries have been deported(after serving their sentences) back to their countries then we can resume letting in citizens of those countries after passing thorough background check.

    23.Build a wall with a one way exits that allow those who wish to deport themselves to be able to do so while at the same time restricting entry into our country.Before any pro-illegal bitches about the cost we give 20 billion away to other countries, we have lots of money being wasted on other programs so cost is not an issue.

    24.Imprison elected and appointed officials at the state and city level for seven years who try to aid illegals and permanently ban them from serving in a political or appointed office.If possible they should be permanently exiled.

    25.Any illegal who is arrested and convicted for any crime will not be paroled at all and will not be deported until their sentence is fully served.

    26.Any illegal who is deported will be deported to the furthest point away from us in their country.For example an illegal deported to Mexico will be deported to the Cancun or Cozumel in the Yukatan Penensilua since on road and foot would be the furthest point away from the US.While illegals being deported to Canada will be deported to Ellesmere Island.
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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    It's also funny how we would offer Puerto Rico statehood when they have continually voted against it.
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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    Anyone who is intolerant of others and is against immigration (illegal)..
    In other words, James, you know damned well of the people I speak of....they do exist, I may have been one at one time....and YES, they do tend to be conservative...
    A solution, James, NOT insults.

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    Re: End United States Discrimination against the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Solutions for illegal immigration-

    1.Stick the military on the Border. We got lots of troops all across the globe. Close every single over seas base and put troops on our southern and northern borders.These troops will also boost the economies of the local towns and cities on or near the border because soldiers will buy things and purchase services from shops in those towns and cities.

    2.Require a birth certificate(or a certificate of naturalization or some other immigration document that says they have a right to be here) and SS card to get and to renew a state issued ID or driver's license.

    4.Require hospitals to notify authorities of illegals.We require hospitals to notify authorities of gun shot victims so notifying the authorities of illegals should be no different.

    5.Require banks,money wiring services, check cashing service, money loan and credit services to verify that the customer has a state issued ID/driver's license.

    6.Require property owners to verify that the potential property owner, renter,leaser or anyone else intending to use that property has a state issued driver's license.

    7.Require that anyone seeking to get welfare,food stamps,section 8 housing or any other form of tax payer aid present a state issued driver's license or ID.

    8.Require anyone seeking state services such as business licenses,Hunting and fishing licenses and etc to present a state issued ID or driver's license .

    9.Require anyone using a public utility to present a state issues ID or driver's license

    10.Require auto dealerships,auto rental places and anyone else selling,lending, leasing or letting someone borrow a car verify that the individual has a state issued driver's license.

    11.Require schools to check the state issued driver's licenses or IDs of anyone trying to enroll themselves or their kids into school.

    12.Use assets and forfeiture laws that apply to drug dealers and others who profit from illegal activities and apply those laws to those who hire illegals since those who hire illegals profit from illegal activities or use their money for illegal activities.But only a guilty conviction has been found.

    13.Throw those who hire illegals into prison,after fining them and permanently deny them any licenses to run a business or farm.

    14.Revoke the part in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children. Thus this would end anchor babies

    15.Push for an amendment to ban citizenship to children born here to non-citizens and require that at least the mother be a citizen or a father with a DNA test to grant birthright citizenship seeing how people like to deliberately ignore the intent of the 14th amendment's author.

    The 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the dangerous misinterpretation of the birthright citizenship clause - DA King - the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship -

    Before its ratification in 1868, Michigan's Senator Jacob Howard, author of the citizenship clause, made the intent crystal clear to the Senate: "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include all other classes of persons."


    16.Raid day labor sites. Send uncover ICE agents and or local law enforce to pretend to be individuals hiring illegals and send ICE and or local law enforcement to pretend to be illegals in order to nab scum who hire illegals.

    17.Permanently ban anyone from owning or running a company who previously was caught hiring illegals,selling real estate or cars to illegals or provided money wiring services to illegals.

    18.Any illegal who is caught the first time gets sent to 6 months in jail and then deported.Any illegal who is caught gets 2 years in prison and then deported.

    19.Any illegal who caught shall have DNA samples,photo and finger prints taken and stored in a data base use to permanently deny that individual entry into this country.

    20.Require that the immigration status of anyone arrested be verified(this has already been done in Oklahoma).

    21. Require that all employers use e-verify and penalize those who don't

    22.Temporarily cut off citizens of countries we have the most illegal immigration problems with entry into this country. That means no more work visas, immigration visas, no more visas of any kind of any country we have a significant illegal immigration problem with. Once it has been determined that a huge significant portion of illegals of those countries have been deported(after serving their sentences) back to their countries then we can resume letting in citizens of those countries after passing thorough background check.

    23.Build a wall with a one way exits that allow those who wish to deport themselves to be able to do so while at the same time restricting entry into our country.Before any pro-illegal bitches about the cost we give 20 billion away to other countries, we have lots of money being wasted on other programs so cost is not an issue.

    24.Imprison elected and appointed officials at the state and city level for seven years who try to aid illegals and permanently ban them from serving in a political or appointed office.If possible they should be permanently exiled.

    25.Any illegal who is arrested and convicted for any crime will not be paroled at all and will not be deported until their sentence is fully served.

    26.Any illegal who is deported will be deported to the furthest point away from us in their country.For example an illegal deported to Mexico will be deported to the Cancun or Cozumel in the Yukatan Peninsula since on road and foot would be the furthest point away from the US.While illegals being deported to Canada will be deported to Ellesmere Island.
    Have you considered the economic consequences of all this ?
    But, I do like the response and some of the ideas.
    Conservatives and liberals must work together.....and maybe they do, and I do not know about it..

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