View Poll Results: Will Puerto Rico say 'Yes' to Statehood?

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    10 27.78%
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  • No, they will maintain free association.

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    Re: Will Puerto Rico say 'Yes' to Statehood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Whatever. It's not going to happen. You liberals are in to empire building. That mindset is disgusting to me.
    Yeah bro, us left libs who are 'too much of wussies to own guns' are going to build an empire.


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    Re: Will Puerto Rico say 'Yes' to Statehood?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    No.......it was not. It was a choice to HAVE a referendum. I am in PR right now.........they will now have an up or down for statehood.
    No they indeed just had a referendum. They had the two questions on the ballot of whether or not to keep the status quo and a second question of statehood, free association or independence if the status quo was not kept. So yes, they already decided in favour of statehood.
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    Re: Will Puerto Rico say 'Yes' to Statehood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    No they indeed just had a referendum. They had the two questions on the ballot of whether or not to keep the status quo and a second question of statehood, free association or independence if the status quo was not kept. So yes, they already decided in favour of statehood.
    So sorry, you are correct. They actually had 3 choices, but this was a non binding referendum.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Will Puerto Rico say 'Yes' to Statehood?

    Puerto Ricans want statehood. They just can't afford to have their taxes doubled. Who can? Under the current territorial relationship all federal income taxes raised in PR stay in Puerto Rico and acts similar to a state tax eliminating the need to raise additional funding to pay for the things the states have to fund. I also THINK the territorial government in PR pays for everything stateside municipal governments fund covering things like public schools, police, fire rescue, roads, garbage collection, libraries, etc. acting more like a big city government than a state. In any event, figuring out their tax situation would be only one of two hurddles IMHO. The other being getting the GOP controlled US House of Representatives to agree to add what will likely be 2 more Democrat US Senators, about 10 more democrats in the House, 12 democrat Electoral College votes and significantly decreasing the likelihood of GOP Presidential candidates getting elected.

    As I understand it the first phase has already been done. Tuesday night the people of Puerto Rico voted for a move toward statehood. What I think happens next is the Puerto Rico territorial legislature will pass an official request to become the 51st state to Congress based upon the will of the people expressed on Tuesday. Then both houses of Congress will have to say yes. The Senate being Democrat will probably say yes. The House might say no although no time in US history has any other territory requesting statehood since the original 13 have ever been rejected so who knows. Then the President will sign it into law and its done. Obama has already said he will.

    Some people might think having two official languages could pose a problem but IMHO hypocritically so. The state of New Mexico has had the same two official languages for a century and written into its state's constitution. If people take issue with PR having both Spanish and English as official state languages, they better be ready to come out against New Mexico's 100 year old state constitution too.

    Again, the biggest issue is going to be losing their territorial revenue/state revenue since the current money would have to start going to Washington instead of San Juan barring what I think offers the best solution, setting up a special 100% rebate to the new state government to be incrementally decreased each year over a 50 or 100 year term provision.
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    Re: Will Puerto Rico say 'Yes' to Statehood?

    Don't make me break out the history book on you, "bro."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Yeah bro, us left libs who are 'too much of wussies to own guns' are going to build an empire.


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    Re: Will Puerto Rico say 'Yes' to Statehood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Don't make me break out the history book on you, "bro."
    I'd love to see you try.
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