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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    It's funny that your objection doesn't challenge the veracity of his statement but the success you think he'd have in making the argument stick.
    I think in sarcasim there is the implication that he's wrong. It's kind of his anti worker position, that workers should not ban together and work in their interests. Business owners and companies are people, who can spend mony, but only if they support the interests of owners, and politicians can only be beholden to wealthy folk. In any case, keeping workers working benefits the country as well as the economy. Do you think I'm wrong about that?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    Two has my vote.
    Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009
    And increased unemployment insurance benefits


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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    It's funny that your objection doesn't challenge the veracity of his statement but the success you think he'd have in making the argument stick.
    there was another poster (I haven't seen him lately) who, when beaten, would always flee an argument with
    "wait until november". ONe of the reasons why this country is in decline is that appealing to mediocrity is a winning strategy for many Democrats and some Republicans. and when you win by appealing to the mediocre you, when you have power-seek to increase the number of the mediocre. Such actions win elections while diluting the greatness of this nation

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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I love the appeal to mediocrity and the masses. which is why the founders limited the power of the masses so as to prevent mediocrity.
    No one has made such an appeal. Is this where you start fighting a strawman?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one has made such an appeal. Is this where you start fighting a strawman?
    I deny your claim. the obama campaign is an appeal to the mediocre.

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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I deny your claim. the obama campaign is an appeal to the mediocre.
    Agian, no one made such an appeal, so you are battling a strawman and not any claim I've made. Try again.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    But donít ask Washington to give shareholders and bondholders a free pass ó they bet on management and they lost.

    The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk.

    In a managed bankruptcy, the federal government would propel newly competitive and viable automakers, rather than seal their fate with a bailout check.

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    Just to remind you of the REAL truth and not the Obama truth, which are often two different things, I posted the Romney NYT article that Obama always lies about when talking about how Romney suggested a managed bankruptcy and government assistance for the auto industry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He also helped keep the auto industry alive. Not single handledly, and Ford does deserve it's own praise. But he helped.

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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Agian, no one made such an appeal, so you are battling a strawman and not any claim I've made. Try again.
    I never said you said that-I said the Obama campaign appeals to mediocrity-and he does

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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He helped stop bleeding. He did keep a number of police officers, firefighters and teachers employed.
    indeed, obama has stopped the bush decline, but he has yet to put the recovery on a stable positive footing.

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    Re: How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Just to remind you of the REAL truth and not the Obama truth, which are often two different things, I posted the Romney NYT article that Obama always lies about when talking about how Romney suggested a managed bankruptcy and government assistance for the auto industry.
    one of the worst lies from Obunny was the spliced 60 Minutes interview of Romney when "yes that is fair" is applied to the false claim that people making 50K a year might be paying a higher effective income tax rate than Romney does on investment income

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