View Poll Results: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

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  • 1.)Barack Obama/Joseph Biden

    29 38.67%
  • 2.)Gary Johnson/James P. Gray

    16 21.33%
  • 3.)Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala

    11 14.67%
  • 4.)Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan

    26 34.67%
  • 5.) Write Ins / Other

    5 6.67%
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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Which makes you an Obama supporter and a crappy Conservative, as well. I'd rethink what I display as my political lean if I were you. Your comments are often way too Left.

    I am a genuine Conservative. You mean to imply that Republicans are Conservative. They are not. Republicans are rabid, right wing ideologues. I am what I say I am. You cannot co-opt a word and automatically be the definition of the word. If you mean Republicans are crappy conservatives, I will agree with that. My political lean is environmental and a desire to restrain Corporate power and political influence. You don't even know what Corporations have taken away from you.

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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Your post tells me that you're either a shill for the DNC, or that you haven't thought things through very well.

    The way you don't put up with the "bull****" is to ensure the current guy doesn't get a second run. That means you vote for the challenger with the best chance at winning. A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Barack Obama because she doesn't have a snow ball's chance, and Mitt Romney does. It's already been established that Obama has the edge. You've essentially taken a vote away from the next best chance at winning. Way to show the Dems that you're not putting up with their bull****, anymore!
    Your post tells me that you are die hard party-tard or that you haven't thought things through very well.

    Voting for a candidate because you hate him slightly less than the other guy because you think he has the best chance of winning is a idiotic reason to vote for someone.Voting for a ****ty candidate is still voting for a ****ty candidate and things will not improve. Romney isn't going to appoint conservative judges,Romney is not going to stand up for the 2nd amendment,Romney isn't going to stand up for conservative vaules and Romney especially isn't going to remove Obama-care seeing how Obama-care is based on Romney-care.
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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    The sad thing about the election is that you don't just get Obama or Romney. You get all of the crooked bastards who brought'em to the dance.

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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That's my problem.

    I have to decide if I dislike Obama enough to justify voting for Romney.

    There is no way in hell that I can think that Obama would get my vote though.
    People have to be pragmatic. Either Romney or Obama is going to win. None of the other candidates have any shot in hell and there is not, unfortunately, a "none of the above" on the ballot. I wish there was. So you need to decide, between the two, who will do the least amount of damage to the country. Personally, I hope for complete and utter gridlock in the government so that absolutely nothing gets done in the next 4 years and Romney can undo all of the bad that Obama has done.

    That's why I voted for Romney. He's the lesser (barely) of the two evils.
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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Your post tells me that you're either a shill for the DNC, or that you haven't thought things through very well.

    The way you don't put up with the "bull****" is to ensure the current guy doesn't get a second run. That means you vote for the challenger with the best chance at winning. A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Barack Obama because she doesn't have a snow ball's chance, and Mitt Romney does. It's already been established that Obama has the edge. You've essentially taken a vote away from the next best chance at winning. Way to show the Dems that you're not putting up with their bull****, anymore!
    I absolutely have thought things through quite well.

    Jill Stein is in favor of "fair trade" rather than free trade. And making the minimum wage a living wage. And support businesses as worker-owned cooperatives. And to make necessary utilities operate at cost rather than for profit. And to expand Medicare so that it can be used by anyone. And to put a moratorium on foreclosure of houses. And to redirect government funds from fossil fuel research to sustainable energy research. And to repeal the Patriot Act. And enforce equal pay between genders. And to support gay marriage rights. And to change the electoral system to instant run-off voting elections rather than plurality winner-take-all. And to cut the Pentagon budget by 50%. And to prohibit the use of drones for the use of assassinations. And legalize marijuana.

    So since I agree with Jill Stein on all those things that Obama won't do please explain to me why I would ever vote for Romney when he won't do them either?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    Jill Stein or Gary Johnson. Romney is running on the stereotypical Republican platform, which I might add got us into this mess in the first place, and Obama is running on the same exact agenda that has gotten us nowhere in the last 4 years. I think most people who result to voting Obama/Romney are simply not informed enough to know there are other viable candidates that are proposing real change. Just because they are not Republican or Democrat does not mean they are not for real. 3rd party is the only way to a bipartisan government, and both Jill Stein and Gary Johnson have formidable plans to makes changes for the betterment of Americans.
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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I absolutely have thought things through quite well.

    Jill Stein is in favor of "fair trade" rather than free trade. And making the minimum wage a living wage. And support businesses as worker-owned cooperatives. And to make necessary utilities operate at cost rather than for profit. And to expand Medicare so that it can be used by anyone. And to put a moratorium on foreclosure of houses. And to redirect government funds from fossil fuel research to sustainable energy research. And to repeal the Patriot Act. And enforce equal pay between genders. And to support gay marriage rights. And to change the electoral system to instant run-off voting elections rather than plurality winner-take-all. And to cut the Pentagon budget by 50%. And to prohibit the use of drones for the use of assassinations. And legalize marijuana.

    So since I agree with Jill Stein on all those things that Obama won't do please explain to me why I would ever vote for Romney when he won't do them either?
    I like Jill in many ways too.
    The bolded above I totally agree with
    The underline above I partially agree with I believe those areas need reform
    if its not bolded or underlined i dont agree with it

    where she worries me though is her foreign policy its all over the place and not realistic or reality based IMO, but i dont like many of her views.
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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    I like Jill in many ways too.
    The bolded above I totally agree with
    The underline above I partially agree with I believe those areas need reform
    if its not bolded or underlined i dont agree with it

    where she worries me though is her foreign policy its all over the place and not realistic or reality based IMO, but i dont like many of her views.
    Honestly, it's because of her foreign policy that I'm voting for her. I'm tired of the War on Everything, or that Americans feel the need to make the world just like we are, or that the U.S. is single-highhandedly responsible for all that's good in the world while ignoring the bad that is done in the name of the United States.

    There are many ways to exert influence in the world, and we need to better prioritize for what reasons we do so.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Honestly, it's because of her foreign policy that I'm voting for her. I'm tired of the War on Everything, or that Americans feel the need to make the world just like we are, or that the U.S. is single-highhandedly responsible for all that's good in the world while ignoring the bad that is done in the name of the United States.

    There are many ways to exert influence in the world, and we need to better prioritize for what reasons we do so.
    while I agree with you in principle

    she seems to contradict herself IMO

    what im talking about so you know is this:

    how do we

    Create a nuclear free zone in the Middle East region and require all nations in area to join.
    Initiate a new round of nuclear disarmament initiatives.

    but also

    Cut the bloated Pentagon budget by 50%.
    End use of assassination as an instrument of U.S. foreign policy, including collaborative assassination through intermediaries.
    Demilitarize U.S. foreign policy to emphasize human rights, international law, multinational diplomatic initiatives and support for democratic movements across the world.
    Oppose attacks on nuclear facilities.
    Ban use of drone aircraft for assassination, bombing, and other offensive purposes.

    I dont see how both sides those get done effectively without eachother
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    Re: Presidential Election: Who are you voting for or might/could you vote for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    while I agree with you in principle

    she seems to contradict herself IMO

    what im talking about so you know is this:

    how do we

    Create a nuclear free zone in the Middle East region and require all nations in area to join.
    Initiate a new round of nuclear disarmament initiatives.

    but also

    Cut the bloated Pentagon budget by 50%.
    End use of assassination as an instrument of U.S. foreign policy, including collaborative assassination through intermediaries.
    Demilitarize U.S. foreign policy to emphasize human rights, international law, multinational diplomatic initiatives and support for democratic movements across the world.
    Oppose attacks on nuclear facilities.
    Ban use of drone aircraft for assassination, bombing, and other offensive purposes.

    I dont see how both sides those get done effectively without eachother
    Well, I don't agree with her in nuclear disarmament, nor on prohibiting the use of land mines, as land mines are an important strategy for deterring North Korea from launching an invasion against South Korea.

    But, on the whole, I agree much more with Jill Stein than I do with either Obama or Romney.

    And I think that she has much more conviction than Obama or Romney does too.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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