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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    What liberals fail to understand is that the Right wants people from ALL classes to have the opportunity to BECOME rich.

    That's part of the American dream.

    But the Obama administration seems to want everybdy to be equal. Equally miserable in a lukewarm pile of economic manure called government assistance.

    America was not built on the Obama model or the Left wing model or the Progressive model. It was built on the Conservative model.
    If everyone became at least independent and able to pay their own way, the dem party would cease to exist

    those sucking on the public teat would no longer have any voting power and those who get rich by using the teat suckers as an argument for democrat party income redistribution would have no "facts" to support their socialism

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Is there really anyone who believes the Liberals, Progressives or Dems do things without expectation of SOME reward or benefit?

    Are there really people who believe there aren't super rich decision makers at the top of both parties and that this hasn't been so for years and years and years?


    The bottom line is that your post reflects a steretypical view of things that has been promulgated by the Dems to manipulate you into giving them more power.

    They are treating you like a mindless sheeple.

    Like most conservatives you make assumptions based on what you think...and most times your totally wrong of course like you are this time.

    I was a registered republican for 43 yrs and voted STRAIGHT GOP all those years up to and including voting for McCain/Palin..I did not vote for Obama.
    I am now a registered Independent....what made me change ? The Attacks on Public Workers by Republican Govs for one...Paul Ryan for another...and lastly the overly disgusting teaparty and thier bs rhetoric that the poor rich are downtrodden and being abused by a working class who wants to much waaaaaaa and all the people that dont have anything....we need tax cuts because weve gotten fabulously richer while we stripped the middleclass of health benes and pensions so we could have mOAR and mOAR and we want mOAR...the gop has gone so far to the right...I want nothing to do with them and I will punish them till I take my last breath because of what they are trying to do to the working man..

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeyers1944 View Post
    You have been watching too much liberal media. ( like MSNBC)
    You are obviously a clueless conservative that has cracked watching too much foxnews

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Like most conservatives you make assumptions based on what you think...and most times your totally wrong of course like you are this time.

    I was a registered republican for 43 yrs and voted STRAIGHT GOP all those years up to and including voting for McCain/Palin..I did not vote for Obama.
    I am now a registered Independent....what made me change ? The Attacks on Public Workers by Republican Govs for one...Paul Ryan for another...and lastly the overly disgusting teaparty and thier bs rhetoric that the poor rich are downtrodden and being abused by a working class who wants to much waaaaaaa and all the people that dont have anything....we need tax cuts because weve gotten fabulously richer while we stripped the middleclass of health benes and pensions so we could have mOAR and mOAR and we want mOAR...the gop has gone so far to the right...I want nothing to do with them and I will punish them till I take my last breath because of what they are trying to do to the working man..

    yeah it appears they correctly noted that the public sector unionistas were sucking up too much money from the taxpayers. tax cuts don't cost the middle class anything. It merely means the rich elite dems have less money to buy the votes of the envious

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Personally I think neither care about the middle class.

    The Left needs the poor to remain poor, to retain their vote.

    The Right needs the rich to remain rich, to retain their vote.

    We keep voting for these politicians. We keep getting lied to. They keep breaking their promises. Our national debt is still rising. It wouldn't surprise me that Independants are increasing in number because they're disillusioned with both Wings. Oh, and the attack ads are still ridiculously disgusting, petty, and dishonest.

    Why should we settle for voting for the lesser of two evils? Don't we deserve better than that? So no, I'm not voting, because both candidates tow their party lines while smearing their opposing party and lying to the fools who routinely vote them into office.
    Libertarians are the only ones who truly favor the middle class. In a true Libertopia, there would be no corrupt cronyism to favor an ultrarich oligarchy or suppress the poor underclass. In a true Libertopia, everybody would naturally fall someplace between lower middle and upper middle. Libertarianism is the only system that permits the free market and a free market is the only means of achieving equality.

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Libertarians are the only ones who truly favor the middle class. In a true Libertopia, there would be no corrupt cronyism to favor an ultrarich oligarchy or suppress the poor underclass. In a true Libertopia, everybody would naturally fall someplace between lower middle and upper middle. Libertarianism is the only system that permits the free market and a free market is the only means of achieving equality.
    in a free society the wealth disparity would be even greater than it is now. There would be no income redistribution to steal wealth from the most talented. There would be no death tax either

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    The left believe in class division. The right believe in equal opportunity for all.

    I think the right-wing philosophy is better for the middle class because it gives them the opportunity to get wealthier. The right wants to lower their taxes and grow the economic pie for everyone who is willing to work hard, whereas the left wants to take from the middle class and from the wealthy to empower government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Personally I think neither care about the middle class.

    The Left needs the poor to remain poor, to retain their vote.

    The Right needs the rich to remain rich, to retain their vote.

    We keep voting for these politicians. We keep getting lied to. They keep breaking their promises. Our national debt is still rising. It wouldn't surprise me that Independants are increasing in number because they're disillusioned with both Wings. Oh, and the attack ads are still ridiculously disgusting, petty, and dishonest.

    Why should we settle for voting for the lesser of two evils? Don't we deserve better than that? So no, I'm not voting, because both candidates tow their party lines while smearing their opposing party and lying to the fools who routinely vote them into office.

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah it appears they correctly noted that the public sector unionistas were sucking up too much money from the taxpayers. tax cuts don't cost the middle class anything. It merely means the rich elite dems have less money to buy the votes of the envious
    Nah thing is you cant use volunteers in lieu of PAYING WORKERS when your a pig sucking profits from people because they MUST HAVE ELECTRICITY...see got it yet...understand and oh btw no one wants to be you turtle no one...

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in a free society the wealth disparity would be even greater than it is now. There would be no income redistribution to steal wealth from the most talented. There would be no death tax either
    Hardly. The wealth pools at the top in the current crony capitalist economy in an entirely unnatural way due to the corrupt use of government to serve the needs of the business elite. A true libertarian economy, like medieval Iceland for example, favors income equality.

    These are things you learn to understand when you study libertarianism academically instead of going about it in a slipshod, unthinking, half-republican sort of way.
    Last edited by Guy Incognito; 11-02-12 at 09:05 PM.

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    I totally agree with your summary.


    who is this big brother left? what policies do they have that indicate that the middle class is not smart enough to make appropriate financial decisions?
    Part of the right to self determination is the ability to fail, and hopefully learn from that failure.
    Are we smart enough to decide we need health insurance? no mandate it.
    Can you decide how much salt to put in your food? clearly not restrict it.
    Can you raise your children the way you would like? heaven forbid no!
    Both sides, left and right restrict freedoms, and both justify it, loss of freedom is wrong ether way.

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