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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    What liberals fail to understand is that the Right wants people from ALL classes to have the opportunity to BECOME rich.

    That's part of the American dream.
    Uh, if everyone were rich then no one would be rich. Can you honestly say that you want that? Should everyone want to be rich in your mind?

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    For many years I believe it was the right and it may well have been the right...but not anymore...the Super Rich have taken over the Republican party and they have nothing more than their interests at heart....they will rape the middleclass
    Is there really anyone who believes the Liberals, Progressives or Dems do things without expectation of SOME reward or benefit?

    Are there really people who believe there aren't super rich decision makers at the top of both parties and that this hasn't been so for years and years and years?


    The bottom line is that your post reflects a steretypical view of things that has been promulgated by the Dems to manipulate you into giving them more power.

    They are treating you like a mindless sheeple.

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    What liberals fail to understand is that the Right wants people from ALL classes to have the opportunity to BECOME rich.

    That's part of the American dream.

    But the Obama administration seems to want everybdy to be equal. Equally miserable in a lukewarm pile of economic manure called government assistance.

    America was not built on the Obama model or the Left wing model or the Progressive model. It was built on the Conservative model.
    I think that's sort of unrealistic, because unfortunately for the capitalist mechanism in the US to work, there has to be a rich class and that has to be a poor class. Everyone cannot be rich and along the lines of what Jonsa said, not everyone has the capacity, the access, or even the desire to be rich. The Right's rhetoric may be that of equal opportunity, but there is a lot of the Right's ideology that is detrimental to that notion.


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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    The political right knows that it takes entrepreneurs to have enough money to hire more people. The political left wants government to create jobs somehow.

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    For many years I believe it was the right and it may well have been the right...but not anymore...the Super Rich have taken over the Republican party and they have nothing more than their interests at heart....they will rape the middleclass
    You have been watching too much liberal media. ( like MSNBC)

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeyers1944 View Post
    You have been watching too much liberal media. ( like MSNBC)
    I think it's because he's been living in reality too much. Corporate and wealth interest have taken over the GOP and most of the Dem party, you don't even need MSNBC or whoever to tell you that.


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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    What liberals fail to understand is that the Right wants people from ALL classes to have the opportunity to BECOME rich.

    That's part of the American dream.

    But the Obama administration seems to want everybdy to be equal. Equally miserable in a lukewarm pile of economic manure called government assistance.

    America was not built on the Obama model or the Left wing model or the Progressive model. It was built on the Conservative model.
    What the right either doesn't understand or likely simply doesn't want to admit is that the opportunity to become rich is meaningless, as the scarce nature of money makes becoming rich absolutely impossible for all but a very tiny percentage of "ALL classes", of all people everywhere, the dynamics of money and its system being what it truly is.

    Sadly, Obama does indeed want everybody to be equal, but not just everyone who is an American, but everyone throughout the world, including Americans, all lumped together, equally earning the same wage scale. In order to get there, Obama, a Multi-Cultural Internationalist, actually does want Americans to continue to lose jobs to in-sourcing to illegals and out-sourcing to wage-slaves in other countries. That will in effect import third-world poverty to American wage scales, and though that's part of Obama's dismantling of America to achieve his idealized one-world U.N nationless boundaryless government, it will indeed make every worker equal: impoverished.
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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    Uh, if everyone were rich then no one would be rich. Can you honestly say that you want that? Should everyone want to be rich in your mind?
    In a real world examination of this, it is impossible that everyone will become rich. Some simply can't do it because they haven't the intelligence or skill or work ethic or personal economy or luck or ambition to become rich. Some people realize they're unlikely to become rich and they become resigned to that. Some have a personal philosophy against riches...some of those adopted this philosophy from Bible verses on money and wealth.

    But, what makes and what made America truly exceptional is that we value each and every life and we believe freedom is everyone's birthright and not a gift from government and that in America there is no barrier to becoming rich for those with the wherewithal and the desire to become rich.

    And the American dream isn't only about becoming rich. It's about leading a better life and lifestyle and moving from government dependence to self sufficiency. It's about getting a job and then getting promoted. It's about studying and getting a better education and moving up the ladder and becoming more comfrtable and being able to do more for others. Americans, after all, aere the most charitable society and Republicans the biggest charitable givers.

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    What liberals fail to understand is that the Right wants people from ALL classes to have the opportunity to BECOME rich.

    That's part of the American dream.

    But the Obama administration seems to want everybdy to be equal. Equally miserable in a lukewarm pile of economic manure called government assistance.

    America was not built on the Obama model or the Left wing model or the Progressive model. It was built on the Conservative model.
    The America we all know was built on the ideas of FDR and the "New Deal". That is what raised up the great middle class that made us the envy of the world.
    The right has spent the last 75 years trying to tear it down and replace it with the America of the 1900's, when workers got $2.00 a day and had to buy even a radio on credit.
    The Right will fail, just like Romney will. Ther is no stoppng progress only delaying it.

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    Re: Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeyers1944 View Post
    The political right knows that it takes entrepreneurs to have enough money to hire more people. The political left wants government to create jobs somehow.
    So if the corporations who have made record profits during this administration didn't reinvest into the economy by creating jobs and increasing wages of their workers wouldnt that make it the "entrepreneurs" fault? You said it yourself, the government sholdnt make jobs, however youd hope that in a time of need for so many Americans, corporations who have more money than they know what to do with would do something for the good of the nation and not for themselves.
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