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Which Party Values the Middle Class More?

Which Party values the Middle Class More?


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And yet, oddly enough, the norm is for the most highly funded schools to have the best quality, because they can afford the best facilities, teachers and materials (like yourself). And of course, because only a limited number of people can actually afford to live in those communities so overcrowding is rare. But I'll bite, what's your link?

do you have proof of that claim?
 
My education was, as public education goes, actually quite good. I was fortunate enough to come out of a vagina that happened to live in a fairly high real estate value community. But I've also seen and worked in plenty of communities whose schools were so abysmal that their students' advantages could be nowhere close to mine. All because those students were stupid enough to choose the wrong vagina to be born from.

And yes, high real estate values make it an exclusive club. If you can't afford to rent or buy property there, that's the end of that.

So how did those families get to live in those neighborhoods?

They followed the Romney plan, which is and has been the American plan. The only ones who are born there are people like you who were born there. LOL
 
If I thought Romney, or for that matter anyone, would do any of that, or even that congress would do so dispite whoever was pres, I might agree.

Frankly though, I think we're going to continue on this same basic dive into a deep pit of fail no matter which of the two main party candidates take office.

So, you were ready, willing and eager to believe Obama's sales pitch without the first indication he'd be able to make good on his promises for hope and change. But, when Mitt Romney comes along with promises for real hope and change and he backs up his promises with a stellar resume full of real and significant and apectacular examples of real successes doing EXACTLY what we'd be hiring him to do for us, you just can't buy his promise.

This proves just how bad a number the Obama campaign laid on the unsuspecting American voters.
 
Personally I think neither care about the middle class.

The Left needs the poor to remain poor, to retain their vote.

The Right needs the rich to remain rich, to retain their vote.

We keep voting for these politicians. We keep getting lied to. They keep breaking their promises. Our national debt is still rising. It wouldn't surprise me that Independants are increasing in number because they're disillusioned with both Wings. Oh, and the attack ads are still ridiculously disgusting, petty, and dishonest.

Why should we settle for voting for the lesser of two evils? Don't we deserve better than that? So no, I'm not voting, because both candidates tow their party lines while smearing their opposing party and lying to the fools who routinely vote them into office.

I would reject the premise of the question: there is no "middle class", broadly speaking.
 
Great, so everyone can move into the same several-dozen communities with the best schools.


Why do you think we have zoning laws regarding lot sizes? Do you think we want blue collar factory workers moving into our neighborhoods?
 
So what you are saying is that the president of the united states is a commie. Okay I understand where you are coming from. I believe its called lala land.

President Obama wants to downsize America. He wants America to have a smaller footprint in the world, because he believes that a smaller America would make for a safer, better planet. If only we consumed less, if only we reduced our military and economic strength, the world would be better off. That doesn’t make Obama a bad man, and he is not alone. Many smart, well-meaning liberals agree with him.


Reality Check vs. Fact Check - Lee Habeeb - National Review Online
 
So, you were ready, willing and eager to believe Obama's sales pitch without the first indication he'd be able to make good on his promises for hope and change. But, when Mitt Romney comes along with promises for real hope and change and he backs up his promises with a stellar resume full of real and significant and apectacular examples of real successes doing EXACTLY what we'd be hiring him to do for us, you just can't buy his promise.

This proves just how bad a number the Obama campaign laid on the unsuspecting American voters.
What in all the hells are you talking about.

I never believed Obama's sales pitch.

I don't believe Romney's either.
 
Your reasoning is flawed. FDR & JFK are widely reported to have cared deeply about the poor and middle class but both were wealthy. Mitt Romney is a kind, compassionate, generous man who is widely known by those who have bothered to find out (by ignoring the cartoonish descriptions told about him by his political rivals) cares very much for his fellow man, poor, middle class and rich. But he cares without regard for their income. Those of you who believe the Axelrod created narrative about Romney are merely his tools.

By the way, you do know about Axelrod's Communist background, right?

Yeah, except that neither Romney, nor Obama care about the middle class. I'm not middle class, so it doesn't bother me either way how they feel about those people. All I care about is policy, and they both fail.
 
okay. you aren't the exception. I won't argue. I refrain from hypothesizing about how you acquired your knowledge.

I myself rose inthe ranks so to speak without a degree and reached Senior VP level, much to the chagrin of my competition, since I did not try to keep my formal education credential secret. Its just that I did it in sales/marketing, and for the more senior technical positions I dealt with (my career was in high tech software) they all had at least some sort of technical certification.

Good on ya.

From me, to you.....
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Great, so everyone can move into the same several-dozen communities with the best schools. Nope, no problems there.

The only problem is paying for the progressive side.
 
Both parties value the middle classs to an equal extent

the problem is, they both define the middle class as including people who earn 200,000 per year. What they dont mention is the fact that a person earning 200,000 per year in the USA is in the top 4% of money earners

Technically the middle class is the middle 50%. And the highest paid worker in the middle 50% earns about 55,000 per year
 
Why should we settle for voting for the lesser of two evils? Don't we deserve better than that? So no, I'm not voting, because both candidates tow their party lines while smearing their opposing party and lying to the fools who routinely vote them into office.

We do deserve better, and I do somewhat agree with your comments related to the candidates, BUT, we should vote for the lesser of 2 evils because the direction of the candidates and parties are so dramatically different. Surely, you must have some areas of importance that would either be supported or opposed by one side or the other.
 
Why do you think we have zoning laws regarding lot sizes? Do you think we want blue collar factory workers moving into our neighborhoods?

Why don't you just admit you are a far lefty?
 
It is only a threat if people like you fail to recognize how morally bankrupt and unworkable it is and how unfair it is to those not in the ruling class. It doesn't take human nature into consideration and doesn't value the freedoms you obviously take for granted. Communist govenments are responsible for more than 100 Million deaths in the 20th Century. That's more than Hitler killed.


When you take a casual view of Communism you help pave the way for others to try to make it popular.

It's like introducing a very small amount of poison into someone's food thinking it can't hurt anything.

No...it's people like you who have bought into this idea that our current president is a Marxist, communist, etc. It has absolutely nothing to do with an actual threat of communisn in America and is derived from conspiracies theories behind Obama's birth, upbringing, parentage, racism, etc. From my persepctive it is the extreme right people who want to take us back to puritantical days who are to be feared.
 
Ideologically, the right.
 
I voted left because that is the general stereotype, but in reality the only people who care about the middle class are 3rd parties!
 
No...it's people like you who have bought into this idea that our current president is a Marxist, communist, etc. It has absolutely nothing to do with an actual threat of communisn in America and is derived from conspiracies theories behind Obama's birth, upbringing, parentage, racism, etc. From my persepctive it is the extreme right people who want to take us back to puritantical days who are to be feared.

If you are upset about what you might think are incorrect suppositions and rumors about Obama you only have yourself to blame. You allowed his ascendency without proper vetting in 08 and so we are left STILL wondering what the significance is of his Communist associations including axelrod and Jarrett.

Maybe they mean nothing, but maybe his actions make better sense when viewed in light of a Communist agenda.
 
If you are upset about what you might think are incorrect suppositions and rumors about Obama you only have yourself to blame. You allowed his ascendency without proper vetting in 08 and so we are left STILL wondering what the significance is of his Communist associations including axelrod and Jarrett.

Maybe they mean nothing, but maybe his actions make better sense when viewed in light of a Communist agenda.

FYI...I voted McCain....but not because I bought into conspiracy theories about Obama's birth and marixsm.....so don't assume anyone who doesn't believe your far right garbage was an Obama supporter in 08.....however....I'll be perfectly honest and tell you the far right BS over the last 4 years has turned me so off that nothing or no one could have convinced me to vote republican this time around.
 
Currently it's 30 votes towards the political Left, and 18 towards the Right.

Imo neither side cares. Certainly the Right doesn't seeing how Republicans keep granting tax cuts for the wealthy. Democrats seem to want to tax the middle class into poverty.
 
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