Run your own nation, play Cybernations."Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals."
- Mark Twain
Its not the patriotism is overrated...its definition was changed over time. Patriotism became supporting the government instead of what it truly is which is support your country before your government. I know that may not make sense to some people, but there is nothing that is more patriotic than distrust of government. That is what America was founded on...distrust of government.
That changed to "you must support this war because it is patriotic and if you don't then you don't support the troops and are not American"....that kind of rhetoric went around. People lost the real meaning of being a patriotic American, and it has nothing to do with flag waving.
Libertarian and Atheist...wow I'm a hated man.
I don't know, it's just, whenever I hear someone say something like "we are ultimately the most free people in the world" I can't help but cringe because of the realities of our situation as well as different cultural definitions of freedom.
We really aren't the greatest nation on Earth. And no, it is not a betrayal of America to think that. It's a much greater betrayal to think it when it's not true, and stop striving to make this country a bastion of freedom. Canada is probably freer than we are.
Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.
But still, I can't imagine anyone living a freer life than I have, though. When a little high school girl from a blue-collar-single-mom home can, without a college education, build a business that allows her to retire at 45? Not too many places one can do that, I don't believe.
I've never gotten more than a traffic ticket...never had my freedom infringed on by the state or Federal governments...never been audited by the IRS. I regularly write letters to the Chicago Tribune criticizing my state and federal governments for their policies. Write letters to my representatives criticizing their votes. I'm free to travel pretty much anywhere in the world at the drop of a hat; sleep safely in my bed at night; have clean water; plenty to eat; enough discretionary money to do most anything I'd like. My gas and electric are cheaper than dirt. And there's no law on the books, Federal or State, that I've ever noticed restricts my freedom in any way. (Oh, okay, except for my local Building & Zoning Department). I do complain about my property taxes, but I probably wouldn't be human if I didn't do that. I'm not sure how you define freedom, but for me? All these things I've listed do it for me.
I'm interested to know why you say Canadians have more freedom than we do. Freedom to do what?
We're not perfect. We make mistakes. Our foreign policy sometimes does more harm than good, no doubt. But, no, I can't imagine a freer country than here in the states. Just can't.
Thank you, Quazi!
If you're curious, I define freedom two ways. First is political freedom, the ability to participate in the political process equally and without fear of recrimination. Second is social freedom, and that is the freedom to determine how your life will play out. It's the freedom to choose what you will learn, where you will live, what you will devote yourself to, who you will associate with, and all the choices that make us who we are. It is that freedom which many Americans do not have. Being trapped in poverty is one of the main things that keeps a person from that freedom. Bigotry and discrimination is another. You were fortunate, Maggie, to have that freedom. A lot of people in this country don't, and that is unacceptable to me.
Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.
"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
-C G Jung
Especially when the two are mutually exclusive, I prefer to be a humanitarian over a patriot.
"Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".
"There are those who will debate the necessity of wilderness, I will not, either you know it in your bones or you are very very old". Aldo Leopold - Sand County Almanac