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Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes damages by Hurricane Sandy

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DVSentinel said:
Sorry Maggs, I cannot agree with your first paragraph. It is never the governments job or role to protect people from themselves and to eliminate/reduce the consequences of an individuals choices/stupidity. There is absolutely no way to stop stupid people from being stupid and the government should never even try to. While it may sound cruel, it is often better to let people suffer from their choices so they learn not to do the same thing again than it is to take away that suffering and teach them that the government is always there to protect them if they make bad choices.
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Well, I'm dealing with "what is," rather than "what I wish it was." The government is always going to be involved in helping people during disasters. When you think about it, that may be second on the list of importance to protecting our safety. So, if the government is going to be involved, I would vote that they purchase disaster insurance with my dollars rather than self-insure.

I don't disagree with much of what you said, however.
 
joko104 said:
You need that in Plano.
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In the last 2 months we've had 4 earthquakes ranging from 1.7 to 3.5 in intensity. The frequency of this minor tremors has increased dramatically since frakking began in response to authorize to tap natural gas reserves in the Barnett Shale.
 
Nope, it is the responsibility of residents to have insurance coverage on their homes. If they didn't, cry me a river.
 
tessaesque said:
In the last 2 months we've had 4 earthquakes ranging from 1.7 to 3.5 in intensity. The frequency of this minor tremors has increased dramatically since frakking began in response to authorize to tap natural gas reserves in the Barnett Shale.
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3.5? We sleep through 3.5 earthquakes. Let me know when you start getting things in the 5 range.
 
Imagine if we had a system that allowed people of like minds, you know like Pashendale, to band together and assist one another through shared contribution. I don't know, just thinking out loud here. Maybe a pool in which they all put their money periodically, and that pays for specific massive accidents or natural events that would otherwise wipe them out. We need democrats in the federal government to hand us this dream, right?

(Or just get insurance)
 
Mach said:
Imagine if we had a system that allowed people of like minds, you know like Pashendale, to band together and assist one another through shared contribution. I don't know, just thinking out loud here. Maybe a pool in which they all put their money periodically, and that pays for specific massive accidents or natural events that would otherwise wipe them out. We need democrats in the federal government to hand us this dream, right?

(Or just get insurance)
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The problem is that while there are a plethora of countries that have implemented what he preaches, instead of just moving there, he hangs around here, trying to force his views on others instead of allowing us to have our views and he goes lives with people who have his. For some reason, the left just cannot be happy unless they are forcing stupidity and misery upon everyone.
 
joko104 said:
The damage is estimated at $20 BILLION plus. Insurance is estimated to only cover half, few homes have full coverage and many have no insurance coverage at all. Should taxpayers pay to rebuilt homes damaged or destroyed by hurricane Sandy?
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This is why we should have non-profit public insurance, at least for home ownership and health care. Private insurance is one of the worst scams every produced by capitalism.

Left rootless they will become much more expensive later.
 
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Morality Games said:
This is why we should have non-profit public insurance, at least for home ownership and health care. Private insurance is one of the worst scams every produced by capitalism.

Left rootless they will become much more expensive later.
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I disagree.

Auto insurance only became such a scam when it was made mandatory by all states. Healthcare insurance is not really a scam, if it is, not a very good one. With a profit margin of less than 4% for the industry, even a small epidemic could throw you into non-profitability for years. While the actual dollar amounts seem huge, spread that out over 300 million people. The problem with healthcare insurance is multi-fold, but some of the biggest contributers to the cost are law suits, care for the uninsured that must be made up by the insured and laws allowing the American system to be overcharged for medications so that the companies can provide them to low income countries at little to no charge and to UHC countries at or near costs, thus making the Americans the only ones actually allowing the companies to make a profit. Ok, an industry average of 28% profit is, imo, excessive, but they do have to make a profit to exist.

They only become more expensive later if we don't allow the natural order of things to progress naturally. The strong will survive and may become stronger while the weak will eliminate themselves from the human race, thereby improving and strengthening the race/country as a whole. Maybe I am a bit biased and feel that way because a very large number of them, and judging from past elections, the majority of them, are liberals/progressives/socialist that, imo, the country would be much better of without. Help the good people, let the Obama loving commies die.
 
The federal Government is not chartered to engage in charity.
Once they start, where do they stop?
They can get what other disaster victims get, a loan and maybe a FEMA trailer.
 
joko104 said:
The damage is estimated at $20 BILLION plus. Insurance is estimated to only cover half, few homes have full coverage and many have no insurance coverage at all. Should taxpayers pay to rebuilt homes damaged or destroyed by hurricane Sandy?
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Absolutely...not

Buy your ****ing insurance before the SHTF
 
If an individual is uninsured and his/her home burns down, does the gov rebuild their home?
The answer is typically no.

So why would we do it when multiple homes are destroyed?
 
Paschendale said:
Of course we should. We're a country. We strive together. We help our neighbors and our countrymen (and women, but countrypeople is a linguistic abomination). How can a person claim to love America yet harbor such disdain for so many Americans?
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You make a false equation.
 
has america goes further and further into the evil of democracy, we shall destroy ourselves, as people continue to push for new rights, so they can they create things for themselves.


“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty. When clear prospects are opened before vanity, pride, avarice, or ambition, for their easy gratification, it is hard for the most considerate philosophers and the most conscientious moralists to resist the temptation. Individuals have conquered themselves. Nations and large bodies of men, never.”
— John Adams (1797-1801) Second President of the United States and Patriot
 
joko104 said:
The damage is estimated at $20 BILLION plus. Insurance is estimated to only cover half, few homes have full coverage and many have no insurance coverage at all. Should taxpayers pay to rebuilt homes damaged or destroyed by hurricane Sandy?
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I don't think it's too much to ask to give a little aid to our own people. Give them a little boost to help them out so they can return to their daily lives. Mind you, I'm not saying we just pay for everything, but give the bare minimum required to get the gears turning again.
 
mbig said:
Another deflection Attempt from Your Own "common issue".
Many states had unprecedented damage.

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so we should ask our nanny state to cover our butts when we do stupid things, repeatedly? We should have told those in New Orleans to move residences to higher ground, like some towns did after flooding along the Mississippi river. If you KNOW you are building on low ground and don't get the proper insurance, you get whats coming to you....
The east coast, even the upper east coast, gets lots of hurricanes....sometimes even big ones....
 
winston53660 said:
I was just being a smart ass. But still should we have a recovery system for people in CA suffer earth quak damage?
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yes, a private system....not a government system....
 
tessaesque said:
....I specifically said early in the thread that I supported low-interest loans for those who lose their homes. I also said I support other forms of aid. I simply don't support funding the rebuilding or restructuring of homes that should have had private insurance coverage on them.
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my brother got a new roof out of a hurricane, he has NO insurance, because he won't work......the roof cost enough to double the value of the shack he lives in....yours and my taxes paid for it....
 
NYC Hazards: NYC Hurricane History

Read it and weep, there have been a lot of severe storms that hit, or just missed, NYC...
You would think that the city fathers don't know how to read the history books.
 
Surtr said:
I don't think it's too much to ask to give a little aid to our own people. Give them a little boost to help them out so they can return to their daily lives. Mind you, I'm not saying we just pay for everything, but give the bare minimum required to get the gears turning again.
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Now that it's clear that these areas will flood as the result of a hurricane, should those constructing houses there be required to build at an elevated height?
 
winston53660 said:
None hurricanes only happen in the Atlantic. Typhoons happen in the Pacific:2razz:
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:Oopsie:failpail:

Hurricanes are formed in the Atlantic and north east Pacific oceans. Typhoons are in the north west Pacific. Cyclones are south of the equator (Pacific/Indian).
 
I voted other because for me the answer would never be "no"

now with that being said, should taxes TOTALLY build every house damaged or destroyed from the ground up, well no

should there be aid and tax money that is set aside and goes to victims of a freak natural disaster? of course! Acting like the people 1 mile in land that didnt have hurricane insurance are some how at fault is just dishonest. I find it asinine to not help them in a case like this, its what great nations and citizens do!
 
DVSentinel said:
I disagree.

Auto insurance only became such a scam when it was made mandatory by all states. Healthcare insurance is not really a scam, if it is, not a very good one. With a profit margin of less than 4% for the industry, even a small epidemic could throw you into non-profitability for years. While the actual dollar amounts seem huge, spread that out over 300 million people. The problem with healthcare insurance is multi-fold, but some of the biggest contributers to the cost are law suits, care for the uninsured that must be made up by the insured and laws allowing the American system to be overcharged for medications so that the companies can provide them to low income countries at little to no charge and to UHC countries at or near costs, thus making the Americans the only ones actually allowing the companies to make a profit. Ok, an industry average of 28% profit is, imo, excessive, but they do have to make a profit to exist.

They only become more expensive later if we don't allow the natural order of things to progress naturally. The strong will survive and may become stronger while the weak will eliminate themselves from the human race, thereby improving and strengthening the race/country as a whole. Maybe I am a bit biased and feel that way because a very large number of them, and judging from past elections, the majority of them, are liberals/progressives/socialist that, imo, the country would be much better of without. Help the good people, let the Obama loving commies die.
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Healthcare insures skim 15 to 25% from our premiums and do nothing to make us healthy. That's alot of money just to cut the checks.
The only "epidemic" I see happening is a total loss of any form of civilized behavior from the far right. You are a perfect example.
Emulating the Nazi dream of the master race will not get you any further than carrying pictures of Chairmen Mao.
 
....even if you accept the premise that folks living in New Jersey shouldn't purchase insurance which includes large storms... why in the world does that create their ability to demand that I buy them a new house?
 
iguanaman said:
Healthcare insures skim 15 to 25% from our premiums and do nothing to make us healthy. That's alot of money just to cut the checks.
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US Industry Profit Margins:

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