View Poll Results: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes damages by Hurricane Sandy

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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The damage is estimated at $20 BILLION plus. Insurance is estimated to only cover half, few homes have full coverage and many have no insurance coverage at all. Should taxpayers pay to rebuilt homes damaged or destroyed by hurricane Sandy?
    I vote other. That money should come with stipulations that they build these structures to be able to handle another hurricane so that tax payers are not paying for another hurricane damage or that damage from future hurricanes are minimized. We should be paying to rebuild structures that are going to topple over every time a hurricane like that hits. The same thing should apply to tornado prone areas, earth quake prone areas and flood prone areas.
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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I honestly don't know. I think if we have money for war and humanitarian aid for countries I could give two squirts of piss about, we should have some help for my fellow Americans. If a bunch of Middle East assholes rammed planes into all these homes no one would have any qualms. Of course, I'm just using common sense so don't mind me. Go on with your thread.
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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Do you like not being a subsistence farmer?
    So I get two empty replies. No disagreements just empty replies challenging common sense. Yes Utah I donated money. Give me one good reson though that says spending money abroad is a better idea than helping out other Americans. Why there is even people that question this is annoying.
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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    This is why we have home owner's insurance. Why give the government one more reason to saddle the American people with more debt?

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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I honestly don't know. I think if we have money for war and humanitarian aid for countries I could give two squirts of piss about, we should have some help for my fellow Americans. If a bunch of Middle East assholes rammed planes into all these homes no one would have any qualms. Of course, I'm just using common sense so don't mind me. Go on with your thread.
    I will leave the war comment for another thread if someone starts it, again.

    It is easy to say "help my fellow Americans", but what really helps them in the long run, government paying for their lack of preparedness encouraging others to follow the same example because why pay for insurance if the government is going to come in during a disaster and pay for what they need anyway or letting them suffer because they had options to protect themselves but didn't take them? Which lesson do you want people to learn? Which is better in the longterm, not only for the individuals involved but for the country as a whole?

    I vote for letting them learn the lessons the hard way. They made their own beds, no let the lay in them.
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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    So I get two empty replies. No disagreements just empty replies challenging common sense. Yes Utah I donated money. Give me one good reson though that says spending money abroad is a better idea than helping out other Americans. Why there is even people that question this is annoying.
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    The US economy is completely dependent upon a global supply chain.

    Trade is completely dependent on security.

    Global Security as regards liberalized trade is completely dependent upon the US military and in a couple of cases, the money we pay Saudi Arabia not to go to war with Iran and Egypt and Israel not to go to war with each other.

    The removal of this linchpin of security means that the worlds critical vulnerability spins out of order...

    Which means that the global economy goes into a tailspin that makes 2008/2009 look like a friggin sunshine picnic....

    And destroys the global supply chain....

    Destroying the US economy...

    Meaning that most jobs which are directly or indirectly dependent upon global trade are gone and will not be replaced...

    Which means that a large portion of Americans now have to figure out how to feed themselves...

    Except that we haven't farmed as a people for a couple of generations....

    Which means that we will suck at it...

    Which means that many of us will likely starve, and many more of us will barely make it.


    OH. And nuclear war becomes a near - inevitability. Though it likely won't hit our shores, but still kill millions (again, both directly and indirectly).




    That's Why spending that money is a good idea.

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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    lets just take the foreign aid we send overseas to terrorists in egypt and pakistan and use that to rebuild.

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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    Everywhere in the civilized world, whenever something like this happens, aid is sent to the region to help rebuild. For the US government to abandon its own people is absurd. It gave millions to Haiti when the Earthquake hit... it should give much, much more to its own citizens.

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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Everywhere in the civilized world, whenever something like this happens, aid is sent to the region to help rebuild. For the US government to abandon its own people is absurd. It gave millions to Haiti when the Earthquake hit... it should give much, much more to its own citizens.
    should we raise taxes to do this? or add to our ever escalating national debt?
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    Re: Should Taxpayers pay to rebuild homes after Hurricane Sandy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    So I get two empty replies. No disagreements just empty replies challenging common sense. Yes Utah I donated money. Give me one good reson though that says spending money abroad is a better idea than helping out other Americans. Why there is even people that question this is annoying.
    Did I suggest spending money abroad? I am totally against foreign aid. I have never owned a foreign brand car, except for a used Mazda Rotary truck with a dead motor that I put a 62 Buick aluminum v8 and chevy OD tranny into....
    I try to buy American products as much as possible. And most importantly, I am doing my best to make sure ALL my kids and grandkids get a college education so they will have a better chance at being tax payers to support those who expect their govt to compensate them for being lazy and stupid and failing to prepare for their own future. That would include my own siblings who have asked me for money, and didn't get it. I don't pay my brother's gambling debts, why should I pay for people who gambled on living in New Orleans or the lower elevations of the east coast? The govt provides subsidized flood insurance for people like that, and if they didn't buy it, too bad.....
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