View Poll Results: What is our form of Government?

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  • Representative Republic

    27 79.41%
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Thread: What form of Government was the US founded as?

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    Re: What form of Government was the US founded as?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Simple question....
    A semi-representative republic with deep roots in hypocrisy and back-knives.
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    Re: What form of Government was the US founded as?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the founders intended that the government be limited, to 18 duties only, and since they have but 18, and no more power outside of those, government in not able to grant favors or bailouts or makes laws with benefit the rich and powerful or large corporations. government is decentralized, and lobbyist and those that seek things from government are out of luck, this is what keeps the elites, FROM ruling.
    I don't remember Grandma or any of the urchins crying out to attack Vietnam, Iraq, or Libya and since we live in a capitalist country, I conclude the capitalists wanted the war because war makes good profits. Runs on energy. Since teh banksters were bailed out instead of arrested, I conclude the capitalists wanted/needed the bailout because once again, Grandma was saying "hang those suckers." Who rules. Big money rules. The Elites.

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    Re: What form of Government was the US founded as?

    Representaive Republic
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    Re: What form of Government was the US founded as?

    The question in the subject and the question in the poll are two completely different questions. One asks what we were founded as and the other asks what we are. Very misleading. We were formed to be a limited government republic. We are now some hybrid of socialism/welfare state/plutocracy. We have a small group of people who make all the decisions for us including who we are allowed to vote for so that we keep them and their kind in office and consolidating power to them while making us think we are free.
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    Re: What form of Government was the US founded as?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It was founded as an oligarchy, because only about 5-15% of the people living within the United States were eligible to vote at the time the Constitution was ratified. Since then, it has evolved into a representative republic.
    You got a point there.

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    Re: What form of Government was the US founded as?

    Actually, more words are needed. It is a democratically selected representative republic.

    Lords could have a "representative republic" and in some regions of the world that was so.

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    Re: What form of Government was the US founded as?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Actually, more words are needed. It is a democratically selected representative republic.

    Lords could have a "representative republic" and in some regions of the world that was so.
    Indeed, it all depends on how the terms are defined, and thus this is a semantic debate. Many would not consider a non-democratic republic a republic at all. Many of those would consider what you have described as an Oligarchic Republic. Who has the right definition(s)? It can be debated endlessly, and what kind of enrichment is accomplished in the end? Very little I say. I can't believe these people want to keep it a semantic debate rather than debating the concepts behind whatever definitions. It is ridiculous through and through.

    (the following is not directed at you, joko): Defining or Redefining does not help the soundness of your argument one iota. Definitions can only, and should only be used for, clarifying your argument. Trying to get people to use whatever one believes is the 18th century nomenclature merely confounds the issue. I think some people think they are winning if they get to be the ones to define things.
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    Re: What form of Government was the US founded as?

    would someone please provide me with the words representative democracy, in which the (founders use that term) and state that is what we are.

    because from my reading of the constitution and the federalist papers, i have yet too find it.

    can someone steer me to this info,it would be helpful too me, and i would appreciate it.

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    Re: What form of Government was the US founded as?

    federation of republics.

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