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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Though the situation you mention was pretty scummy, I don't agree. Clinton was essentially impeached for lying about having an affair. I remember clearly that was when I realized the stupidity of partisan hacks.
    I actually liked Bill Clinton. I don't think he should have been impeached.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    More like prosecuting Al Capone for lying about whether he drank during Prohibition.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I actually liked Bill Clinton. I don't think he should have been impeached.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm not real familiar with the law regarding impeachment, but just out of curiosity would that be considered actually "charging" him? When I think about Bill Clinton, what he did might have been a little bit sleazy, but where was the crime part?

    I wouldn't want to charge the president with a crime, but if he lied to the American people and was involved in a cover-up of some sort, I would hope that impeachment would be an option.
    Impeachment is for if the President commits a crime. So essentially impeaching him is charging him with a crime. Clinton lied under oath, which is not OK, but the Senate didn't think it worth removal from office. So far nobody from the Obama administration, much less Obama himself, has lied under oath. Lying in a press conference is not a crime. It's not clear yet that Obama actually committed a crime.

    As far as Watergate, Nixon would have been impeached for Abuse of Power because of his efforts to use the wheels of government (like the FBI and CIA) to aid his coverup. He resigned to avoid being impeached, but it probably would have happened.


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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I actually liked Bill Clinton. I don't think he should have been impeached.
    He was a scumbag. A liar. A cheater. A morally-bankrupt human being. With all due respect, Chris.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Impeachment is for if the President commits a crime. So essentially impeaching him is charging him with a crime. Clinton lied under oath, which is not OK, but the Senate didn't think it worth removal from office. So far nobody from the Obama administration, much less Obama himself, has lied under oath. Lying in a press conference is not a crime. It's not clear yet that Obama actually committed a crime.

    As far as Watergate, Nixon would have been impeached for Abuse of Power because of his efforts to use the wheels of government (like the FBI and CIA) to aid his coverup. He resigned to avoid being impeached, but it probably would have happened.
    Thanks for explaining that.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    He was a scumbag. A liar. A cheater. A morally-bankrupt human being. With all due respect, Chris.
    No problem Maggie!

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Obama lied people died.

    Nixon lied nobody died (and then he resigned and correctly judged that he was unfit for presidency, unlike another arrogant fool that is on the ballot right now).
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    If we are speaking legally then Watergate. If we are speaking ethically, the thinking line I chose then Benghazi.

    No one died in Watergate, and the administration didn't order the break in. Nixon broke the law by obstructing the investigation after a few of his campaigners took it upon themselves to commit the B&E to look for politically beneficial information.

    Benghazi may have been a potentially known terrorist plot. The two SEALS were told to stand down, and apparently military support was called off, four of our fellow citizens were killed as a result and there is some rumblings that Syrian rebels were being equipped with arms and Al Quida got word of this. May not be illegal mind you, but there are some glaring ethical no-nos.

    The tie breaker for me was loss of life. So I went with Benghazi.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Obama lied people died.

    Nixon lied nobody died.
    Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia?

    I mean, let's not get carried away with this stuff, guys. It's more than a bit ridiculous.
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