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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't have much use for him but recognizing Red China might have been the single most brilliant FP coupe in my lifetime (born in 59)
    I would agree with that. Its too bad Nixon allowed his demons to overrule some of his better angels. When John Dean filled him in on the role that some of his key people in the White House played in the scandal, he should have picked up the phone, called the FBI and the whole thing would have never touched him and he would go down as a President who picked duty and honor above petty politics and personal friends.

    Sadly, he did not and the rest as they say is history.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    that is correct. And should Obama be re-elected next week, and the Republicans retain control of the House, I strongly in the most emphatic terms possible would urge them to go ahead and impeach President Obama without a crime to charge him with. I would absolutely LOVE to see that happen.
    What would you do, vote the democratic party line that you already vote to show them what's what? Every an Administration official is sent to testify in contradiction to facts that are known by the President knowing their testimony will be false, the Administration is subordinating perjury. There is your crime.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Tell that to Bill Clinton.
    Clinton was impeached for bad judgement outside the realm of his office. I think there's a difference here. Essentially, Obama made a bad call in the context of his duties.

    Article I Section 6 of the Constitution exempts Congresspeople from being arrested or charged for actions within the scope of their official duties. You could argue that this doesn't technically apply to the President, but it would be hard to get him convicted on it also.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    What would you do, vote the democratic party line that you already vote to show them what's what? Every an Administration official is sent to testify in contradiction to facts that are known by the President knowing their testimony will be false, the Administration is subordinating perjury. There is your crime.
    If the Republicans controlled the House and they voted to impeach President Obama without a crime to charge him with as some here suggest, it would not change, alter, effect nor impact my thinking about them in the slightest. That would not be humanly possible.

    As I said, I would absolutely LOVE if they did this. Even under some trumped up charge to satisfy the Constitutional language - please please please do it.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If the Republicans controlled the House and they voted to impeach President Obama without a crime to charge him with as some here suggest, it would not change, alter, effect nor impact my thinking about them in the slightest.

    anyone who would want Biden as president is really batcrap crazy That was the smartest thing Obama did, making sure even those of us who despise him would not want him out of office short of the election

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Clinton was impeached for bad judgement outside the realm of his office. I think there's a difference here. Essentially, Obama made a bad call in the context of his duties.

    Article I Section 6 of the Constitution exempts Congresspeople from being arrested or charged for actions within the scope of their official duties. You could argue that this doesn't technically apply to the President, but it would be hard to get him convicted on it also.
    I'm not real familiar with the law regarding impeachment, but just out of curiosity would that be considered actually "charging" him? When I think about Bill Clinton, what he did might have been a little bit sleazy, but where was the crime part?

    I wouldn't want to charge the president with a crime, but if he lied to the American people and was involved in a cover-up of some sort, I would hope that impeachment would be an option.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    anyone who would want Biden as president is really batcrap crazy That was the smartest thing Obama did, making sure even those of us who despise him would not want him out of office short of the election
    That's true. I hadn't really thought that far ahead yet.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Number of US Ambassadors who were killed and dragged through the streets of a foreign city while superiors dithered in Watergate: 0
    Deaths are irrelevant when it comes to the OP question. INTENT is. There is no intent in Benghazi. These two things aren't even in the same league. Watergate is to Major League Baseball as Benghazi is to Little League.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Deaths are irrelevant when it comes to the OP question. INTENT is. There is no intent in Benghazi. These two things aren't even in the same league. Watergate is to Major League Baseball as Benghazi is to Little League.
    what was Nixon's intent when the watergate break in was executed?

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Tell that to Bill Clinton.
    Yeah, the impeachment of Bill Clinton was the most idiotic piece of partisan hackery that has ever occurred in this country's history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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