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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Or we could compare it to the Teapot Dome scandal.

    There is no comparison, they are completely unrelated nor is there ANY reason to compare the two.

    I previously started a thread that the word "_gate" should never be used after anything other than Watergate.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    But, one side is right.
    Too bad for you, that's correct.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    I do not believe what happened in Libya was just "a series of mistakes." I believe it a series of incompetency, putting politics over the best interests of the country, horrifically wrong foreign policy, trivialization of the lives of our personnel overseas, deliberate lies and diversions, and a deliberate cover-up - that the President would have gotten away had not the CIA and Navy got so super pissed off and blown the whistles.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I was making the point that it was a bigger scandal, not really that he'll be impeached, but still...

    I don't know enough about constitutional law to tell you if the president has done anything impeachable, but the constitution says "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" are what constitute impeachable offenses.

    High crimes and misdemeanors are defined by the House, I believe. It's not like there's a list that says perjury and obstruction of justice are impeachable, but this and that are not. It's subjective and depends on the current House.

    Allowing Americans to die is pretty bad. Lying about it is pretty bad. There will be hearings, even if Obama puts them off. I wouldn't bat an eye if he were impeached. What Nixon and Clinton did were not nearly as bad as this.
    It is pretty simple. The House issues the Articles of Impeachment upon simple majority vote and the POTUS has a trial in the Senate with House proponents as the Prosecutors, the Chief Justice as the Judge, and the Senate as the jury which requires a 3/4 majority to remove from office. They can do it for any reason they want. There is no judicial appeal from an impeachment hearing--no Court has the jurisdiction to hear it. When it is done, it is done.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It is pretty simple. The House issues the Articles of Impeachment upon simple majority vote and the POTUS has a trial in the Senate with House proponents as the Prosecutors, the Chief Justice as the Judge, and the Senate as the jury which requires a 3/4 majority to remove from office. They can do it for any reason they want. There is no judicial appeal from an impeachment hearing--no Court has the jurisdiction to hear it. When it is done, it is done.
    Actually it requires 2/3, but I'm sure Obama would take 3/4 if necessary.

    So you think you'll get 67 Senators to remove him for this....OK....

    You're also wishing for President Biden. Just saying.


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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Too bad for you, that's correct.
    He who laffs last laughs best.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    A better comparison would be Watergate v. Operation Fast and Furious

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Or we could compare it to the Teapot Dome scandal.

    There is no comparison, they are completely unrelated nor is there ANY reason to compare the two.

    I previously started a thread that the word "_gate" should never be used after anything other than Watergate.
    I know what you mean. I used to have the same issue with "aholic."

    Rage aholic sex aholic spend aholic.

    They all use part of the word alcoHOL and they use it inappropriately IMHO.

    But, I've given up tilting at that windmill.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Actually it requires 2/3, but I'm sure Obama would take 3/4 if necessary.

    So you think you'll get 67 Senators to remove him for this....OK....

    You're also wishing for President Biden. Just saying.
    No I don't think the Senate will remove him from office but I do think that the GOP controlled House will pass the Articles of Impeachment. In a time when we are heading into the second trough of the double-dip recession this could all be avoided if Obama fesses up before the election so the American people can decide for themselves. If not, the cover up to win the election will make him more impotent than he already is.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Benghazi or Watergate? You decide.
    Watergate because it's the only one out of the two that is an actual scandal. Benghazi is conservatives' desperate, trainwreck attempt to win the election by turning Americans against Obama. It's the focal point of this year's conservative meltdown.

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