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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Number of US Ambassadors who were killed and dragged through the streets of a foreign city while superiors dithered in Watergate: 0
    And all this, after we made their rebellion a success. What wonderful friends we have, that these ungrateful little ****s not only tell us they don't need our help while we pummel their governments artillery and armor so they don't get massacred, now the ****ing animals turn around and murder our people. I guess that's how Libyans show gratitude. We should show them gratitude the old fashioned way, with napalm and incendiary rounds, dropped by the tons, in amounts not seen since the Second World War.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    send in a airborne assault squad-a couple miniguns on an apache would have cleaned things up a bit
    From what I understand there were Hercs ready to roll too.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You think losing a high ranking official, his aide, and two Navy SEALS is something to be "faux" outraged about? I don't think you get it, that was a very bad day and we lost four good people in something that could possibly have been prevented. People have every right to be pissed.
    I have no idea where your coming from. Actually I do. But lets get to the point of my post.

    My comments were directed at Navy Pride and his very very very obvious partisan desires and this is only a tool for him to exploit partisan divisions and try to whip up hatred of the President.

    I simply told it like it is.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have no idea where your coming from. Actually I do. But lets get to the point of my post.

    My comments were directed at Navy Pride and his very very very obvious partisan desires and this is only a tool for him to exploit partisan divisions and try to whip up hatred of the President.

    I simply told it like it is.
    You don't think a former Naval member would be pissed that 2 SEALs were killed? Really?
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    From what I understand there were Hercs ready to roll too.
    Wouldn't have done much without ground support. Ground support they could have had some time ago if the warnings were taken seriously. Of course, this blatant declaration of war won't be taken seriously, either.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Wouldn't have done much without ground support. Ground support they could have had some time ago if the warnings were taken seriously. Of course, this blatant declaration of war won't be taken seriously, either.
    True enough. I guess the overall point is that four Americans could have been extracted safely had anything been done, and the resources were in the area.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Clinton was impeached for lying about an affair.

    Obama lied to the American people about the terrorist attack. His administration led us to believe it was a mob riot due to some video. We know now that he knew from day 1 that it was a terrorist attack.

    We know that he watched the attack live, as it happened. We had troops stationed in Italy, 1 hour flight away. Obama watched and did nothing.

    He sat by, watched people die, and did nothing. He lied about it to the American people. Don't let a good crisis go to waste, right?

    Now, he refuses to answer questions about it. What is he hiding? Why have the hearings been pushed back till after the election?

    It's a lot like Obamacare: you'll find out after you pass it. Benghazi: you'll find out after he's re-elected.

    Scary.
    firstly it is moot as to whether HE actually lied to anyone.
    Secondly, Clinton was impeached by a partisan congress and I believe that failed.
    thirdly, even if he did lie, it certainly didn't cover up anything, nor did the lie get anyone killed.
    fourthly, using your logic, then Bush and his entire cabinet should have been impeached and actually should stand trail since their lies led directly to the deaths of thousands of US citizens and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens.

    Watergate was the president of the United States breaking all kinds of federal laws, in an effort to cover up all the dirty tricks his operatives were carrying out to sabotage his opposition.

    Still trying to manufacture a scandal out of thin air. Its sad that this is the best the right has.
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    The Ambassador died of smoke inhalation in the safe room. Who sodomized him BEFORE he died?

    In the Clinton political stunt major senators on both sides of the aisle refused to hear the case.

    Nixon was told in no uncertain terms major senators would vote to convict him guilty if the House started the process.

    If brave men dying over trumped up intel, failure to act in everyway the critics demand on monday morning, or lies told by an administration then where is BushII's trial?

    Now I know many of the never been monday morning quarterbacks think the denials are criminal but let me assure the civilian armchair generals, denials come all the time, even in pitched battle. Help was sent and as in every actual situation friction slowed the action. (If you think the denied actions would have been any better at beating the friction keep your day jobs)

    Now let's look at what was being done, an attack on a safe house that was supposed to be safe against smoke infiltration... ya want to try someone that would be a place to start, but that contractor isn't running for President in a party most of the howlers can't stand.

    Anyways the bait was howling in a safe house screaming for help, the terrorists were counting on a huge and violent reaction to the attack like BushII and his puffy cowboy swagger would have done causing major civilian deaths. The reaction was to send a Libyan presence to secure the safe house and free the ambassador but the poorly designed safe house smothered him.

    Now back to the regularly scheduled rant, whine and bitch session by the extremely selective experts...

    Need to ad- the ambassador wasn't drug through the streets, he was rushed to the hospital, THAT right wing lie has been disproven days ago... for all some want to rant over lies, they sure use them to stir the pot...
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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    firstly it is moot as to whether HE actually lied to anyone.
    Uhm. No, lying under oath is perjury which is a crime and impeachable.
    Secondly, Clinton was impeached by a partisan congress and I believe that failed.
    He was impeached, not removed. His bar license was revoked because of the impeachment.
    thirdly, even if he did lie, it certainly didn't cover up anything, nor did the lie get anyone killed.
    He committed a crime, no one died.
    fourthly, using your logic, then Bush and his entire cabinet should have been impeached and actually should stand trail since their lies led directly to the deaths of thousands of US citizens and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens.
    No lies proven. Intelligence may or may not have been faulty, not a crime.

    Watergate was the president of the United States breaking all kinds of federal laws, in an effort to cover up all the dirty tricks his operatives were carrying out to sabotage his opposition.
    He broke a law, Obstruction. He resigned as president, found guilty, pardoned by Ford so as to be done with it. The end.

    Still trying to manufacture a scandal out of thin air. Its sad that this is the best the right has.
    If you are going to speak of partisanship it helps not to say "That side only has................"
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Which was a bigger scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You don't think a former Naval member would be pissed that 2 SEALs were killed? Really?
    What I clearly said without all the right wing translation and self serving double talk is that this thread participation from Navy Pride is trying to whip this up to a ridiculous level in a blatant attempt for political gain simply because he has a mountain of vitriolic hate for President Obama.

    He and others are obviously willing to use ANYTHING to exploit that.

    Got that?
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