I'd call myself a member of the Bohemian class.
Upper - Ivy League/Privileged
Upper-Middle - Specific degree PhD, Masters, etc
Middle - White collar professionals
Traditional Middle - working-blue/pink collar 4 yr degree
Working - HS diploma/Assoc degree
Poor - no college, HS or GED
I don't label myself and prefer that nobody knows
I'd call myself a member of the Bohemian class.
"you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos
None. Or maybe business-class. What's social?
Maybe hermit-class, or family-class. I hang out with my family, I enjoy it, I also like and require my alone time. The rest is just a matter of practicality. Emotionally I probably prefer my roots, poor south with good food, drink, some music and some nature as the backdrop (bayou, lake, woods, whatever). Instead of bickering politics it's jokes and stories, I find that so much more pleasant a lot of the time. I can't handle it forever though, if I want to problem-solve as entertainment I prefer to post on DP or listen to NPR or research/read. If I want to shop and eat-out, I want to be in the upper-class areas that aren't quite super-snobbified, I feel safer, it's often got a lot of money thrown at it for asthetic and it's the type of stuff I buy these days.
Anyone who really tries to be a particular social class, including "intellectual" would probably annoy me/nauseate me. I can't stand acting or social positioning, I just want to destroy it every time I see it. So, I usually avoid it, happily. It's like which cuisine do I associate with. I have no idea, I try to eat from all of them if the dish is good...
The problem is education has nothing to do with pay or class.........
It has to do with how high up the Corp structure you are, and how much they "value" you.
I called myself "Upper Middle" because 1) my wife and I have advanced degrees, 2) we have never had any debt for more than a few months (we even own our home outright, and we're under 30 years old), and 3) we make more money than any of our graduate school classmates (as far as we know). On the other hand, our home is rustic and does not even have a real toilet (we burn our poop), we shop at thrift stores, we share a car that's more than 10 years old, and we have no kids or pets. We were just really, really strategic, like obsessive-compulsively strategic, and willing to live a lifestyle most people would not even begin to consider. Since our circumstances are so rare among our age group, it's hard to compare ourselves to others in the tit-for-tat sense. But I consider the advantages of our lifestyle to essentially put us in competition with upper middle class or even upper class peers. A lot of middle-upper and upper class couples our age make more money than we do, but they don't collect their own water, harvest their own heat source, live a debt-free life, and I even think that some people with triple our salaries actually FEEL poorer than we are.
I don't say any of this to brag. Remember, I have a graduate degree and yet I build fires to incinerate my own ****. One of the coolest things I ever discovered in life was that I could FEEL richer than someone who was considerably richer than me in the literal sense. It's quite an empowering thing when people who earn significantly more than you ask "how do you DO that??"
I have no desire to redistribute wealth to make poor people richer. What I want to redistribute is an empowered attitude, so that people can feel richer than their technically richer counterparts. If I could do that, I would die happy.
You don't just have to think about privilege and education. There's also gross income, and then there's net income, and then there's discretionary income, there's net worth, and even deeper than that, there's true security, and a little farther still, I'd say there's self-actualization.
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"The knowledge and prudence of the poor themselves, are absolutely the only means by which any general and permanent improvement in their condition can be effected." - Thomas Malthus
I don't think class is defined by your degree. I know plenty of "underpaid" MBA's, out-of-work people with liberal arts degrees, etc, and I know many wealthy people with only a high school diploma (and a couple who don't even have that).
The wealthiest people are typically entrepreneurs. They then hire the folks with fancy degrees to work for them.
I'm your typical parisate but I put prefume and dress up.
None of the above.
Middle class by income (although taxable income is below poverty level), some college and I'm retired due to disabilities. As an enlisted member of the Armed Forces, I was well under the poverty level for most of my career.
Be sure to work hard and get lots of overtime. People on welfare want more steaks and free upgrades to smart phones with unlimited data packages.
Right now we're just below the poverty level, and I'm not sure if my parents are ever going to get out of that, I hope so, but I can't say they are for sure. I am currently going to school, and will hopefully be on my own making much more money than what my parents live off of right now soon enough.
Eat me, drink me, love me;
Laura make much of me