View Poll Results: Which social class do you 'fit'?

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  • Upper - Ivy League/Privileged

    5 7.46%
  • Upper-Middle - Specific degree PhD, Masters, etc

    22 32.84%
  • Middle - White collar professionals

    20 29.85%
  • Traditional Middle - working-blue/pink collar 4 yr degree

    14 20.90%
  • Working - HS diploma/Assoc degree

    12 17.91%
  • Poor - no college, HS or GED

    4 5.97%
  • I don't label myself and prefer that nobody knows

    7 10.45%
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Thread: Which class do you identify with?

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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    Because of my wide array of expertise and what I do on the side and for a living I am somewhere in the middle of your definition of white collar and blue collar. There are many definitions however. I take pride that in my adult life I went from poor to where I am now but won't be satisfied until I get to where TD is so me calling guys like him out has a bit more validity.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Upper middle class. My parents were solid blue-collar workers, so I didn't have a privileged upbringing. I don't have a college degree nor any part thereof. I'm in the upper 10% of the population of the United States. If that's not upper-middle, I don't know what is.

    I agree with LPast -- education has little to do with it. It's not how much education you have. It's how much you do with your education.
    True, I could have say dropped out of college to shoot for the army and I'd still be very wealthy. I have three top degrees but that really isn't a big factor--it merely means I am a bit richer than I would be. My youngest brother was first in his harvard graduate class but made less than many people with a state school basic degree because he went into a field that does not pay all that way despite demanding tremendous levels of education-architecture where the top graduate of the top school going to the top firm was making about 30K a year his first year out while someone with the same class rank from Harvard Law the same year going to the top firm in NY would have started at 140K or so a year. Now he runs his own firm, its nationally prominent and he is doing really well but education is not always equivalent to income. I probably have more degrees than the top 15 earning hollywood actors in some years for example. and teachers always have college degrees and most of them make less than the mechanics that work on my Lexus.

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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Watson View Post
    This poll is skewed because your official education level does not necessarily reflect your earnings.
    Economist and socialiogist have many varying defintions of class and you are right to some extent, but these definitions do indeed exist in popular economic theory.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Because of my wide array of expertise and what I do on the side and for a living I am somewhere in the middle of your definition of white collar and blue collar. There are many definitions however. I take pride that in my adult life I went from poor to where I am now but won't be satisfied until I get to where TD is so me calling guys like him out has a bit more validity.
    why do I have any relevance to your rant.

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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do I have any relevance to your rant.
    You were the only guy to put yourself in the top and like any man worth his salt, enough isn't enough.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    This election year, the economic focus seems to be on the "middle class". Strange, because if you really think about it, the middle class is really several "classes" in and of itself. Where do you fall in the U.S. social class rankings and WHICH middle class are all the pundits referring to?

    How do you fit into the income/social class in the United States?

    Upper (old money/privileged upbringing/ivy league school)
    Upper-Middle (Higher degree than a BA/BS)
    Middle (white collar professional degree)
    Traditional Middle (working - blue/pink collar -4 year college degree)
    Working (no college degree)
    Poor (HS, GED)



    I consider myself in the traditional middle class.
    My extended family is upper-middle class.
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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Economist and socialiogist have many varying defintions of class and you are right to some extent, but these definitions do indeed exist in popular economic theory.
    Where would you put uneducated Henry Ford?

    What about Richard Branson? How about Dell? Mr. Gates? Steve Jobs?

    these are the major exceptions that everyone can identify.. theres obviously millions more

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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Watson View Post
    Where would you put uneducated Henry Ford?

    What about Richard Branson? How about Dell? Mr. Gates? Steve Jobs?

    these are the major exceptions that everyone can identify.. theres obviously millions more

    or, how about the 53% of Recent College Grads who are currently un or underemployed?

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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Your education level has nothing at all to do with allot of people earning potential. I was making more than my friends who had masters in the early 90's before I even finished my associates. I know constructions workers with no more than a HS diploma or less who own companies or make at least 6 figures. It boils down to what you do with what you have, not just what you have.

    The poll in my opinion should be divided by income...

    0 - 20,000 Poor/below poverty level
    21,000 - 35,000 Working
    36,000 - 50,000 Traditional Middle
    51,000 - 65,000 Middle
    66,000 - 100,000 Upper Middle
    101,000+ Upper Middle+

    I am talking single person income, not couples etc.
    I am a warrant officer in the Army so going off of that scale I am well into the "Middle" class. Throw in my benefits, though, I would be "Upper Middle+". I guess I can't complain too much.

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    Re: Which class do you identify with?

    My family's all over the map, from upper middle class white collar professionals to working class to welfare cases like myself. I don't identify with being a welfare case, but I've been poor all my life and I think like a poor person; at best, I could say that I have aspirations to being a white collar professional by way of the arts.

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