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Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?


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I can answer that. He was giving America the impression of foreign policy success in the middle east, and the defeat of Al Queda and/or the Taliban. Having a terrorist attack on a US embassy and recognizing it as such proves his foreign policy failed and basically ruins all the ground he made regarding this in his political image.

So just one terrorist attack makes his entire foreign policy a failure? Cause if that's what you're suggesting, it's nuts.

Also, regarding your comment about Al Qaeda and the Taliban, the investigation appears to still be ongoing. It's not yet known if the terrorist attack was conducted by either (and if geography has any influence, it's unlikely to be the Taliban)..
 
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So just one terrorist attack makes his entire foreign policy a failure? Cause if that's what you're suggesting, it's nuts.

Also, regarding your comment about Al Qaeda and the Taliban, the investigation appears to still be ongoing. It's not yet known if the terrorist attack was conducted by either.

Just curious it has been a month and a half...........what investigation is that?
 
Just curious it has been a month and a half...........what investigation is that?

Do you know who conducted the attacks? If so, how do you know?
 
So just one terrorist attack makes his entire foreign policy a failure? Cause if that's what you're suggesting, it's nuts.

Also, regarding your comment about Al Qaeda and the Taliban, the investigation appears to still be ongoing. It's not yet known if the terrorist attack was conducted by either (and if geography has any influence, it's unlikely to be the Taliban)..

It's not just that. I'm not completely educated on the Iran matter, but I don't think Obama is doing anything, has done anything, or will do anything about their nuclear program until it's too late. He's had a trend of being soft with other countries when it comes to his foreign policy. The whole video apology lie is a great example of that. We shouldn't apologize for something that is our right, however screwed up the video may have been.
 
It's not just that. I'm not completely educated on the Iran matter, but I don't think Obama is doing anything, has done anything, or will do anything about their nuclear program until it's too late.


Exactly.

Obama hasn't sent troops into Iran even though Netanyahu has instructed him to.
 
Exactly.

Obama hasn't sent troops into Iran even though Netanyahu has instructed him to.

Wait a second. We are still trying to get out of Iraq, and Afghanistan. Now you want us to go into Iran? Are you nuts? Those 2 wars screwed us up enough without adding another one. And then people wonder why the Arab and Persian peoples get so pissed at us.

And since when does the Israeli Prime Minister give us marching orders???
 
Do you know who conducted the attacks? If so, how do you know?

I am more interested in why Obama let them happen and then covered them up....We know who conducted them.
 
Wait a second. We are still trying to get out of Iraq, and Afghanistan. Now you want us to go into Iran? Are you nuts? Those 2 wars screwed us up enough without adding another one. And then people wonder why the Arab and Persian peoples get so pissed at us.

And since when does the Israeli Prime Minister give us marching orders???

It says your a Conservative....Is that a typo? Do you want to wait until Iran gets a Nuke puts it in a suitcase and dump it in NY orLA?:confused:
 
It says your a Conservative....Is that a typo? Do you want to wait until Iran gets a Nuke puts it in a suitcase and dump it in NY orLA?:confused:

Being a conservative has nothing to do with wanting to attack anyone. Being a conservative does not mean we have to police the freaking world. Being a conservative does not mean we all walk lock step with of all people, you.

If Iran gets a nuke the Israelis who it directly affects are more than capable of handling it. We are not their goto boy or they our red headed stepchild. They have a military, a good one. If they feel the need, then use it.
 
Being a conservative has nothing to do with wanting to attack anyone. Being a conservative does not mean we have to police the freaking world. Being a conservative does not mean we all walk lock step with of all people, you.

If Iran gets a nuke the Israelis who it directly affects are more than capable of handling it. We are not their goto boy or they our red headed stepchild. They have a military, a good one. If they feel the need, then use it.

200 million arabs surrounding 20 million jews............sound like a fair fight to you?
 
200 million arabs surrounding 20 million jews............sound like a fair fight to you?

Israel has nuclear weapons, the Arabs do not. Bomb the enrichment plant, case closed. Israel has one of the finest air forces and armored corps in the world. They also have an armed and ready population as compared to their hostile neighbors. So combining their technical knowhow with their advanced military training and experience, I would say they would not have much of a problem. Numbers mean little as the Iraqi and Afghan forces found out.
 
Israel has nuclear weapons, the Arabs do not. Bomb the enrichment plant, case closed. Israel has one of the finest air forces and armored corps in the world. They also have an armed and ready population as compared to their hostile neighbors. So combining their technical knowhow with their advanced military training and experience, I would say they would not have much of a problem. Numbers mean little as the Iraqi and Afghan forces found out.

With all due respect Pakistan and India both have Nukes and Iran is a click away from having them.
 
With all due respect Pakistan and India both have Nukes and Iran is a click away from having them.

Israel and India for all practical purposes are allied against Pakistan. So that is a non-issue. Iran is not our problem. We don't need to send our men and women to fight for Israel when they are perfectly capable of defending themselves with our financial and military (equipment) aid.

I mean the last two wars destroyed us economically, how can you support another financial disaster of a war?

PS we are now way off topic. So with that I am going to bed.
 
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Like with Watergate, it is the cover-up that is going to doom them.

Nixon paid men to break into the Democratic headquarters, the truth was more than enough. The coverup just delayed the inevitable.
Unless you can prove Obama paid the terrorists to attack the Embassy you SOOL.
 
Apparently when a soldier is lasing a target, it means that a weapons asset is ready to fire. Why didn't they fire on the target?

That's one interpretation of it. Some sources say that he believed there was an asset in the air but there actually wasn't.

This case is essentially a foreign policy Zimmerman case where there's lots of noise and not much to clear it up.

I'm going to do exactly what I did in that case: wait for the noise to clear rather than jumping to conclusions.
 
I am really surprised she is such a hero to you.....To me and the people I know she is a non factor and a joke. We don't take her seriously She is just a publicity hound.

You underestimate the historical damage she can do. She's not my hero, but I, unlike you, understand what she can do.
 
Wait a second. We are still trying to get out of Iraq, and Afghanistan. Now you want us to go into Iran? Are you nuts? Those 2 wars screwed us up enough without adding another one. And then people wonder why the Arab and Persian peoples get so pissed at us.

And since when does the Israeli Prime Minister give us marching orders???

We can't pick and choose when evil people do their evil things. If we have to send troops into Iran to deal with this nuclear threat, then so be it. I would rather pay more to solve the problem, than to let Iran launch WW3 on us.
 
Israel has nuclear weapons, the Arabs do not. Bomb the enrichment plant, case closed. Israel has one of the finest air forces and armored corps in the world. They also have an armed and ready population as compared to their hostile neighbors. So combining their technical knowhow with their advanced military training and experience, I would say they would not have much of a problem. Numbers mean little as the Iraqi and Afghan forces found out.

The point of having a nuke is to not use one. The use of one by any country will likely launch WW3. They are there only as a deterrent because of their destructive power. I'm sure you're aware of this.

Also, if they send their army into Iran, who's going to protect Israel? Even if they left a small force, they would likely be overrun by the eager Arabs that surround them.
 
Right wingers and Romney never let the truth ruin a perfectly good story. They pride themselves on not letting factcheckers run their campaigns or their mouths.

What truth is that? The part where Obama and his administration told the American people that it was related to a video even after they knew it wasn't, or the part where they denied the sworn testimony of those in the hearing?

The facts, as you like to call them, DO ruin a story, but it's Obama's story. Whether by deceit or a failure of intelligence (unlikely), neither is a good thing and appropriate action should be taken against those responsible.
 
First, Obama is not going to lose, second, in the very unlikely case that he does, it will not be because of anything besides the economy. People have that as the single most important issue, and he has not addressed that effectively.
 
We can't pick and choose when evil people do their evil things. If we have to send troops into Iran to deal with this nuclear threat, then so be it. I would rather pay more to solve the problem, than to let Iran launch WW3 on us.

Iran probably will not start WWIII, we can choose however not to police the world. The rest of the world will go on without us getting involved in every ****ing war out there.
 
The point of having a nuke is to not use one. The use of one by any country will likely launch WW3. They are there only as a deterrent because of their destructive power. I'm sure you're aware of this.

Has nothing to do with us starting a ground war with Iran.

Also, if they send their army into Iran, who's going to protect Israel? Even if they left a small force, they would likely be overrun by the eager Arabs that surround them.

Yea just like they got overran in 73. Facts, use them.
 
What truth is that? The part where Obama and his administration told the American people that it was related to a video even after they knew it wasn't, or the part where they denied the sworn testimony of those in the hearing?

What makes you think any of this?
 
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