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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Back to my questions. What major laws did the President break? The answer is none.
    Nice fallacy of raising the bar there.

    First you ask what laws did he break, I provide a summary which includes the laws he broke and now you arbitrarily decide that only "major" which by your secret definition only apply counts.

    I don't generally respond to your posts because of **** behavior like that from you.

    Set your criteria and stone and we'll talk. I'm tired of you always changing your criteria whenever you feel like it.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    What false outrage? You think I'm faking this?! I honestly believe that if the reports are accurate, this president should be tried and executed! You don't leave Americans to die just because. You don't tell Marines to "stand down" when they can help. And you sure as hell don't tell the American public and the world that it was a "spontaneous protest" when you watched the live video feed of an organized militia execute your ambassador. And you really don't have a guy arrested in the US that had absolutely nothing to do with it! This goes way above what any President has done. This is completely unprecedented and I can't believe that some would sit around and just let it be!

    I want you to think about this. The heroes that died serving their country in Benghazi would have never had the true story told if this administration had gotten their way. They would have been killed by "protesters" that reacted to a YouTube video and we would have never known their true heroism. They disobeyed orders to save American lives and succeeded. They gave their lives despite the stupidity of our government. They most certainly would have faced significant punishment for their actions, but their selfless sense of duty and spot on intuition with regards to right and wrong saved many of the Americans based in Benghazi.

    But, hey, we should not be outraged, there was nothing that could be done? Right?

    Bite me.

    Even if there was nothing that could have been done (and I doubt that's the case, the reports just don't reflect that), the cover up was not needed. That's what makes me believe there was a bad call. There was someone, in this administration, that did the wrong thing. Other wise, why cover it up? If there was nothing to be done then the ambassador was a victim of terrorism. He would have been the poster boy for a new cry for the war on terror. It could have propelled the President to new heights as he called for renewed efforts. Instead, it was covered up in hopes the truth wouldn't come out until after the election. An american's rights were violated for political gain and the true valor of two of America's finest was shoved under the rug like dirt.
    yeah bro, ditto.

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Exactly.

    Obama hasn't sent troops into Iran even though Netanyahu has instructed him to.
    I HATE to defend Obama, but he shouldn't take orders from Netanyahu, nor should we send troops... an underground, spec ops mission MAYBE.
    No President should take orders from any foreign leader, even a treasured ally like Netanyahu

    that being said, Obama hasn't even visited Israel since being elected, total fail.

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Earlier we had this exchange. "
    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post

    Tell me how Benghazi is worse then an incident where the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES openly conspired to violate several major US laws and then attempted to cover up the fact that he knowingly committed crimes. Tell me how an incident where the POTUS engaged in an illegal conspiracy is not as bad. What Nixon did perverted and corrupted the very nature of our democracy and government. That is a bigger threat to America then Benghazi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Tell me more my obvious "friend". What major laws did the president conspire to break?

    I have frequently suspected that you believed human life was far less valuable than defending the indefensible.

    The president denied help three times. The Benghazi four were murdered. Then Obama and his minions lied for more than two weeks. For some of us on the right that is appalling. For those of you on the left it is October.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Back to my questions. What major laws did the President break? The answer is none.
    What did the President do that caused him trouble? The answer is that he tried to cover up the burglary because it involved his re-election committee.
    Why was the President threatened with impeachment? Because he lied to the American people.

    When the Consulate was attacked had president Obama done anything wrong? There is insufficient information to answer.
    What did the President do that caused him trouble? He refused to provide effective, armed support to the Benghazi defenders. Four of them were murdered. Then he and his minions lied to the American people.
    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Nice fallacy of raising the bar there.

    First you ask what laws did he break, I provide a summary which includes the laws he broke and now you arbitrarily decide that only "major" which by your secret definition only apply counts.

    I don't generally respond to your posts because of **** behavior like that from you.

    Set your criteria and stone and we'll talk. I'm tired of you always changing your criteria whenever you feel like it.
    Wow. Even you can clearly see that you began by claiming that President Nixon conspired to break major laws

    I asked what major laws he conspired to break. You never answered. You did point me to wikipedia. But you never answered.

    Maybe you should take your own advice and set your criteria in stone.

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Maybe you should take your own advice and set your criteria in stone.
    Okay. Tell me what you think is a major law.

    And I see you do not want to include any laws broken cited the Wiki page.

    Tell me, why do you think being part of the break in plan to illegally wiretap the Democratic offices is not a major crime or a crime at all?


    Furthermore, tell me what laws Obama has broken.

    Nixon and his administration knew about the plan, took part in its planning. Merely because they themselves didn't do the break in does not mean they are not commit a crime.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    heres a quick video loaded with the White House deception

    The White House Disinformation Campaign on Libya - YouTube

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Okay. Tell me what you think is a major law.

    And I see you do not want to include any laws broken cited the Wiki page.

    Tell me, why do you think being part of the break in plan to illegally wiretap the Democratic offices is not a major crime or a crime at all?


    Furthermore, tell me what laws Obama has broken.

    Nixon and his administration knew about the plan, took part in its planning. Merely because they themselves didn't do the break in does not mean they are not commit a crime.
    Actually, you made the claim that President Nixon conspired to break major laws. Then you pointed me to an encyclopedia. Awesome.
    He got into serious trouble because he was involved in the coverup. And he lied about it to the American people.

    Guess where the parallel is? It is NOT in breaking laws. It is in the cover-up and the lies to the American people. Everything else is an attempt at diversion.

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Actually, you made the claim that President Nixon conspired to break major laws. Then you pointed me to an encyclopedia. Awesome.
    He got into serious trouble because he was involved in the coverup. And he lied about it to the American people.

    Guess where the parallel is? It is NOT in breaking laws. It is in the cover-up and the lies to the American people. Everything else is an attempt at diversion.
    You seem to miss the point. Nixon got in trouble because he covered up illegal activity his administration took part in. Yes, he got in trouble largely because of obstruction of justice, but you are going out of your way to ignore how his Administration got in trouble for partaking in the illegal activity that started the whole mess.

    On top of that, you are assuming what you want to be true about Benghazi rather then taking a step back and waiting for the smoke to clear. There is plenty of conflicting information and you are doing exactly what the liberals did with the Zimmerman case. You went with the information you want to hear and what you want to be true rather then wait for the noise to clear. You WANT Obama to be guilty so you are ASSUMING there is a cover up despite plenty of information saying otherwise.

    This is why I generally don't bother with your posts. You assume what you want to be true and everything that doesn't support your beliefs is a giant government conspiracy.

    You failed to answer this:
    Tell me, why do you think being part of the break in plan to illegally wiretap the Democratic offices is not a major crime or a crime at all?
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah.....although I did vote no for this thread. As I don't think there is just one issue that will cause Obama to lose. There are a host of good reasons as to why.
    Same thing here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR
    ...play stupid games, win stupid prizes...

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